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Hai all,

Is HF J2ME is there in the HF series??? Bcz wanna buy a book for J2ME and im a big fan of HF series. If it is not there, then only il go 4 any other book.
 
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Originally posted by Thariq Mohammed:
Hai all,

Is HF J2ME is there in the HF series??? Bcz wanna buy a book for J2ME and im a big fan of HF series. If it is not there, then only il go 4 any other book.



No, HF series do not have any book about J2ME... So the best book until now for the SCMAD exam is Wireless Java, Second Edition of Jonathan...

Hope this helps...
 
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I suppose there just aren't enough J2ME jobs like J2EE has
[ March 23, 2005: Message edited by: Billy Tsai ]
 
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Originally posted by Billy Tsai:
I suppose there just aren't enough J2ME jobs like J2EE has

[ March 23, 2005: Message edited by: Billy Tsai ]



I think so...
 
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Bert seems no plans on HF SCMAD, and thus, you might consider J2ME The Complete Reference.

Nick
 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Bert seems no plans on HF SCMAD, and thus, you might consider J2ME The Complete Reference.



Mmm... J2ME The Complete Reference might be a good alternative to Jonathan's book, since it covers the most updated versions of the specs that are required in the exam... But if I am not wrong, the book is a bit thick...
 
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Originally posted by Billy Tsai:
I suppose there just aren't enough J2ME jobs like J2EE has

[ March 23, 2005: Message edited by: Billy Tsai ]



Surprisingly enough, it seems the opposite, at least here in the UK. There are more job requirements for J2ME developers than actuallyl people available.
 
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Hey Guys -

We really, really want to write this book! We keep watching the market to see when we think we'd sell enough books to break even

As soon as we think the market is ready, we'll jump in

- Bert

p.s. If someone could talk Nokia into buying some copies up front...
 
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Breaking even shouldn't be difficult if you selfpublish it as an electronic book. No fixed costs. Except your valuable time of course.

I'd buy it.
 
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Originally posted by Nobuhiro Watsuki:
Breaking even shouldn't be difficult if you selfpublish it as an electronic book. No fixed costs. Except your valuable time of course.

I'd buy it.



I don't think HF authors will do this...
 
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Why not, let's say one asks 50 bucks a copy and sells a 1000, you do the math.
 
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Why not, let's say one asks 50 bucks a copy and sells a 1000, you do the math.


There are at least 2 known issues. The 1st issue is the size of the book in electronic format. As you know, HF series are full of graphics, and thus, it is too difficult for the author to prepare the e-version. Of course, they can provide DVD version or download version, but then, I believe there will be other problems encountered.

The 2nd issue is the copyright. It is more easiler for someone to crack the PDF format and distribute it. So, might be only 10 being sold out, but more than 1000 people who get the copy. On the other hand, it is not that easy and time consuming for one to photocopy the book and distribute it.

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Hm, interesting, I wouldn't need a book in the HF format though.
A well structured "regular" book would be nice. A Knudsen type book with extra stuff to cover all objectives would be good enough for me.
 
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Another motivator for Bates et al.: if you wait long enough the competition might be getting ahead of you.
 
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Originally posted by Nobuhiro Watsuki:
Hm, interesting, I wouldn't need a book in the HF format though.
A well structured "regular" book would be nice. A Knudsen type book with extra stuff to cover all objectives would be good enough for me.



Then why are you asking for a book from HF series?
I don't think books from HF series will be in a normal format... That's what they call "unique" among other technical books...
 
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Originally posted by Nobuhiro Watsuki:
Another motivator for Bates et al.: if you wait long enough the competition might be getting ahead of you.



Well, other competitators is also watching the market like Bert, I guess... Who will come first does not that matter, but the quality of the book...
 
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Ah yes,
I agree about the quality part.
I notice you are certified MAD, couldn't you write one?
 
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Originally posted by Nobuhiro Watsuki:
Ah yes,
I agree about the quality part.
I notice you are certified MAD, couldn't you write one?



Everybody is still watching on SCMAD market... If there are very few people taking this exam, the publisher wouldn't take a risk to publish a SCMAD exam-specific book...

I do believe that there are many authors who can write a SCMAD exam-specific book, but they will not take a risk on the ROI...
 
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Ko Ko,

Will you write SCMAD study guide like MZ?

Nick
 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Ko Ko,

Will you write SCMAD study guide like MZ?

Nick



No not now... Well, I need to wait and watch the SCMAD market like Bert first... I don't think I can write the whole book alone... I might need to accompany with someone who has experience in writing books...
 
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I am waiting for this book to come out then to take the exam
 
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Here many people are not going for this exam bcz its not having any good and exam specific book. If it is in the market SCMAD will boom.
 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Ko Ko,

Will you write SCMAD study guide like MZ?

Nick



Eveybody "prepares" their notes.

Not "write" one, YOU Nick!
 
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Hey Guys -

We really, really want to write this book! We keep watching the market to see when we think we'd sell enough books to break even

As soon as we think the market is ready, we'll jump in

- Bert

p.s. If someone could talk Nokia into buying some copies up front...




Hi Bert,

If all went well, I might work at NOKIA and do something about J2ME. Since I do not have deep knowledge of J2ME I want to go for the SCMAD.

If I get the job, I do my very best that NOKIA buys some books


Anyhow, let see what the future brings us.

Lucy
 
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Good luck Lucy -

Let us know ir we can help!

- Bert
 
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Just make it Bert. In company that I work there are lots of Idea to design J2ME applications. I think J2ME have shiny future
 
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I think the best book to get you through the SCMAD exam is really:
"Programming Wireless Devices with the Java2 Platform, Micro Second Edition"
from the Sun Java series, by Roger Riggs (Editor), Antero Taivalsaari, Jyri Huopaniemi, Mark Patel, James VanPeursem, Aleksi Uotila

It�s very close to MIDP/CLDC specs, and saves you a lot of work in digging up information. It covers every SCMAD topic except JTWI, WMA and MMAPI which you can go through by the JSRs.

However, it�s not a "programmer�s book" like Knudsen�s "Wireless Java". Which one you like best, it depends on your style and depth of study.
 
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Originally posted by Eduardo Marques:
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However, it�s not a "programmer�s book" like Knudsen�s "Wireless Java". Which one you like best, it depends on your style and depth of study.[/QB]



I bought the book by Knudsen. I am on page 105. As far as I can judge its a quite good book. Please have in mind that I just started to learn for this exam.

Lucy
 
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I am just going to study the specs
 
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