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And when did the US start its program of pushing the English system on everyone to replace the metric system? So let me see a list of standards that the US is pushing on the world.Originally posted by Randall Twede:
on other hand, the U.S. expects the rest of the world to embrace any standards it has.
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Maybe an equally valid question is why don't they just use our standards when they choose to adopt the technology that we've been using for some time already?
[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
In fact, the US at one time I believe tried to adopt the metric system as it's standard, and it just didn't fly because Standard was so ground in to our Western brains.
Originally posted by Randall Twede:
why is it the U.S. resists standards that it did not create? two examples come to mind offhand. the metric system and GSM cellphones. almost the whole world is standardised except the U.S.
on other hand, the U.S. expects the rest of the world to embrace any standards it has.
Originally posted by Mark Milan:
Should the US try and adopt the metric system? It won't be adopted 100%, but it can be done.
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Hey It's not like we aren't TRYING. We buy our Soda Pop in 2 Litres!
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I hope we never go to centigrade. Fahrenheit is much more sensible as a scale for normal weather conditions. The centigrade scale for normal weather in most parts of the US would rum from from about -15 to +40. That same range in fahrenheit is +5 to +104. So there is a much greater range in fahrenheit. If I say that it is in the 90's in fahrenheit then you know that it is hot. If I say that it is in the 30's in centigrade, the range is from the nice to the unbearably hot.
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Ok, so "the U.S. expects the rest of the world to embrace any standards it has" was just a load of crap that you decided to throw into the conversation.Originally posted by Randall Twede:
actually i started this thread just for discussion, its not like ive been stressing over it.
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Originally posted by Randall Twede:
not really, it is true in a vague sort of way i cant exactly pinpoint (classified). we use our financial support (or withdrawl of) and other means (including black ops) to get other countries to do what we want.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
If I say that it is in the 30's in centigrade, the range is from the nice to the unbearably hot.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
No I'm not talking about Iridium. Randle mentioned GSM as being a standard outside of the US. My point was that since we apparently invented cell phone technology, we were the first to deploy it, and we were the first to adopt it for wide scale usage, citing that we are not using the same standard as those who came after us, as if to say that we should be using what they are using, doesn't make much sense to me.
The fact that Nokia is a European company, as mentioned in an earlier response to my previous post, doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything. Nokia makes phones that use multiple standards, GSM being one of them.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
If we are using black ops to get countries to convert to feet and inches it isn't working very well.
Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
I think this article explains the reasons why we (Europe) chose GSM over CDMA/TDMA:
http://www.mcommercetimes.com/Technology/95
Put simply, GSM is a better technology than CDMA. Id also question that Cellular phones are in more widespread use in North America than Europe, youre more than invited to provide statistics to back it up
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Originally posted by Randall Twede:
yeah we have CSM but its a different freqency than the rest of the world
Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
I think this article explains the reasons why we (Europe) chose GSM over CDMA/TDMA:
http://www.mcommercetimes.com/Technology/95
Put simply, GSM is a better technology than CDMA. Id also question that Cellular phones are in more widespread use in North America than Europe, youre more than invited to provide statistics to back it up
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Originally posted by Mark Milan:
Snowfall is in centimeters, home projects are in feet and inches. Outdoors is Celsius, ovens are Farenheit. Gas is in litres, beer is in pints.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I hope we never go to centigrade. Fahrenheit is much more sensible as a scale for normal weather conditions.
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And how often does it rain boiling water?Originally posted by Scott Duffy:
Centrigrade is actually a more sensible scale.
100 degrees Celcius = the temperature at which water boils
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
[QB]And how often does it rain boiling water?[QB]
I said: Fahrenheit is much more sensible as a scale for normal weather conditions. To which Scott then claimed that centigrade was a more sensible scale because it ranged from the freezing point to the boiling point of water. It seemed to me that a scale where 0 and 100 are the range of normal weather conditions is more useful as a scale for the weather than one where 0 to 100 is from the freezing point of water to the boiling point of water.Originally posted by Mark Milan:
What does that have to do with anything?
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The argument is that having the range of 0 to 100 be the freezing point to the boiling point of water makes sense somehow. I can count on one hand the number of times in the last 10 years that I have needed to know the boiling point of water. It simply isn't useful to most people in normal situations. The range of 0 to 100 for being normal weather conditions makes a lot more sense to normal people living normal lives. In fahrenheit, 0 is really cold and 100 is really hot. In centigrade, 0 is fairly cold and 100 is the oceans are boiling off and we are all dead. The second of these rarely comes up in normal conversation for some reason.Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Not that I really buy Thomas' argument.
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Originally posted by Andreas Johansson:
I don't agree. I think centigrade is a better scale for countries with normal(?) winters at least. If the temperature is negative then it will snow, when positive it will rain instead. Easy to know by only checking the thermometer. Ang good to know if the road will be icy or not.
No one usually wants to know the temperature of the body, as little as the boiling point of water.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Fahrenheit is much more sensible as a scale for normal weather conditions.
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