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SCWCD 1.4 FREE Beta Voucher Info

Giselle Dazzi
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Joined: Apr 20, 2003
Posts: 168
Hey guys, just got mine today !
As you can see from this post, I sent my email to prometric a loooong time ago, but I got it !


Giselle Dazzi<br />SCJP 1.4
Gustavo Torreti
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Joined: May 20, 2003
Posts: 84
Also recieved mine today, fellow ranchers.
Time to wait, time to study!


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samuel vagel
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Joined: Dec 29, 2003
Posts: 1
Me too got it today.
Guys just wanted to know what's the clearing mark?? Any idea??
Beta exam is for 160 Questions in 5 hrs right??
Lakshmi Karri
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Joined: Dec 18, 2003
Posts: 5
Exam Confirmation mail says my voucher no is valid for only --
311-081 Sun Certified Web Component Developer for J2EE 1.4 beta exam .
But the book i purchased, SCWCD Exam Study Kit says it as SCE 310-080.
Are they both same?
Praveena Venigalla
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Joined: Oct 29, 2003
Posts: 36
Hi Lakshmi,
Both exams are different.The current version of the exam is for 1.3.The free voucher is for 1.4. The objectives will be more in 1.4.See in this forum in earlier dates ,they have discussed in length.
Thanks


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Bert Bates
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Part of the goal for Sun in doing the beta exam is to determine which questions are the best, and then to determine what the passing grade will be. If history is any indication it will probably be 4 - 8 weeks before beta takers will know if they passed or not, another reason to be patient!


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Lakshmi Karri
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Joined: Dec 18, 2003
Posts: 5
Thnx for your response Praveena.
I knew this is the new version but I was just confused with exam nos.
So is there any other book that covers all the new exam objectives ?
Right now all I hv is Hanumant&Jignesh. Is it good enough to start with??
v giri
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Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 128
Guys
I don't have the voucher but I kind of see a deja vu situation. We had something very similar in SCBCD beta. Throughout the preparation you won't be sure if you would make it to the beta as vouchers do not guarantee anything. If you are very good, okay. Otherwise you might prepare as much as you can and try taking a shot in the first week. Most of the guys who took early for SCBCD took it because they wanted to be sure they can make use of the voucher. Some of them could not pass because they were not adequately prepared. Nevertheless their inputs were invaluable for others who took the exam later. SCBCD almost ran to the full duration of the beta.
I would still feel SCWCD beta is harder because SCBCD was sharply focused. Just one document of EJB 2.0 specs. We also had books Monson-Haefel and Roman covering the subject though not exam specific. With SCWCD you have at least two specs to cover plus patterns. Add to that K & B's assertions that the new exam version is a lot harder.
I would still feel the most difficult of everything could be scheduling the exam itself. Five hour slots are difficult to get. Most of the exam sites (there are very few anyway) that open on Saturdays close around 1pm making exam taking on week-ends nearly impossible. Looks like the candidates should ask Prometric look for a slot and reserve it.
May I suggest candidates not to debug programs when they return to work after the exam?
My very best wishes to everyone taking the exam.


-giri
Ko Ko Naing
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Joined: Jun 08, 2002
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Originally posted by Lakshmi Karri:
Thnx for your response Praveena.
I knew this is the new version but I was just confused with exam nos.
So is there any other book that covers all the new exam objectives ?
Right now all I hv is Hanumant&Jignesh. Is it good enough to start with??

Hi Lakshmi,
It's nice to see you here in JavaRanch.com... Hope u remember me...
There will be Head First SCWCD for the new version of the SCWCD exam... I hope it will be published after the official exam is released round about March...
SCWCD Exam Study Kit is good for the objectives that are common with the new objectives, especially in servlet portion... By the way, did u receive the beta exam voucher number from Prometric?


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P S Arora
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Joined: Dec 22, 2003
Posts: 8
Yo..I got the free voucher too !
Cheers
P.S.Arora


SCJP(1.2)
Michael Sullivan
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Joined: Dec 26, 2003
Posts: 235
Don't know what the latest word on this is, but I just sent my email off and got the standard... "our box is full, we are behind" message. I'll post if I receive a voucher (indicating that more may be available)
Thanks for starting this thread, good stuff.
JohnnyBusca
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Joined: Dec 04, 2003
Posts: 4
I've received the voucher yesterday.
5 hours... That's the main problem.


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Vijay S. Rathore
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Joined: Oct 29, 2001
Posts: 449
In this exam, even a day is important for preparation. Even though I had applied on the very first day the 23rd of Dec., I haven't got my voucher yet. I think it's not a fair deal as consider people getting voucher the same day. They are at least 4 to 5 days ahead of us in preparation. It doesn’t make a sense to start preparing unless you are sure about the situation. But anyway I am not happy with the way Sun conducts their Beta Exams. It's becoming similar to SCBCD exam.


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Lakshmi Karri
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Joined: Dec 18, 2003
Posts: 5
Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:
By the way, did u receive the beta exam voucher number from Prometric?

Yes i got the voucher on the same day i mailed.
bit lucky i guess
Raj Puri
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Joined: Apr 24, 2003
Posts: 189
After sending couple of repeat emails I got reply WE ARE BACKED UP ... I guess they don't like me so I give up on this. Best to you all luckies.
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
Posts: 1902

Originally posted by Vijay Rathore:
In this exam, even a day is important for preparation. Even though I had applied on the very first day the 23rd of Dec., I haven't got my voucher yet. I think it's not a fair deal as consider people getting voucher the same day. They are at least 4 to 5 days ahead of us in preparation. It doesn’t make a sense to start preparing unless you are sure about the situation. But anyway I am not happy with the way Sun conducts their Beta Exams. It's becoming similar to SCBCD exam.

I'm not happy either, frankly. I emailed at the beginning as well, and have been getting a run-around from Sun and Prometric. Most recently, I got an email about 5 minutes ago from a Ms. Green at Sun stating that there is no beta for SCWCD running... so someone ought to go run down to her office and correct the matter. (Not to mention that I'm going to be just a wee bit frustrated if I don't get a voucher, after having made sure to apply at the earliest possible moment.) Sun needs to fix how these vouchers get given out.


Theodore Jonathan Casser
SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Vijay S. Rathore
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Joined: Oct 29, 2001
Posts: 449
Hi Rajesh/Theodore,
I also give up. It seems they are sending vouchers alphabetically.
I find the IBM exam techniques much better even though they have started charging $10 for their practice exam.
Even last year also I never faced any problem with IBM.
Well anyway good luck to all the guys who received their vouchers.

Vijay
SCJP, SCJD, IBM486, IBM483, IBM141
Zack Ponares
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Joined: Jun 20, 2003
Posts: 18
Is it required to provide any special information in your e-mail to prometric in order to obtain the voucher? I only gave my name...
rashmi date
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Joined: Nov 18, 2002
Posts: 42
Hi ,
I tried to get the free voucher.....but not sucessfull.my email is bouncing back.if anybody is through with this?
Rashmi
SCJP 1.4(93%)
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
Hi Zack,

Is it required to provide any special information in your e-mail to prometric in order to obtain the voucher?

You have to provide your Prometric ID in order for Prometric to keep a record.
Nick.
[ December 30, 2003: Message edited by: Nicholas Cheung ]

SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Nicholas Cheung
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Posts: 4982
Hi Theodore,

I emailed at the beginning as well, and have been getting a run-around from Sun and Prometric. Most recently, I got an email about 5 minutes ago from a Ms. Green at Sun stating that there is no beta for SCWCD running...

This is because only a small group of people know about the Beta event, like Mr. Bates, Kathy (involved in designing the beta), Evelyn (the beta coordinator), etc.
I guess it is normal because it is difficult and meaningless for unrelated people to know about these events.
So, dont be too unhappy.
Nick.
Michael Sullivan
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Joined: Dec 26, 2003
Posts: 235
Though I've emailed for a voucher, I have yet to get word on its status. Lets assume that I do not get a voucher. When will the 1.4 be available? If it is to be released later, should I just take the 1.3 and get it done with? When the 1.4 is released, will there be a 'migration' exam, similarly to the 1.2 to 1.4 SCJP exam?
Thanks!
[ December 31, 2003: Message edited by: Michael Sullivan ]
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
Hi Michael,

When will the 1.4 be available?

It should be around Mar to May 2004, cos beta result will be announced at the end of March 2004.

If it is to be released later, should I just take the 1.3 and get it done with?

It depends. Since there are around 40% different between 1.3 and 1.4, if you are familiar with JSP 1.2 and Servlet 2.3, then go ahead. Otherwise, it is better for you to prepare for the new exam.

When the 1.4 is released, will there be a 'migration' exam, similarly to the 1.2 to 1.4 SCJP exam?

Yes.
Nick.
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
Posts: 1902

Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Hi Theodore,
I guess it is normal because it is difficult and meaningless for unrelated people to know about these events.
So, dont be too unhappy.

Um, no. I am unhappy and I think I have a decent reason to be.
I've done exactly what was asked in the forum to request a voucher, and am getting nowhere on it. I waited the 5-7 business days as requested in the original posting, and got back a response that was worthless.... so yeah, I'm not happy. The process is broken and needs to be fixed.
Yes, I realize that this is a free matter to help beta test the exam, but seriously, if only a few of us are having problems and saying something, it begs the question of how many others are having problems and not speaking up.
Vijay S. Rathore
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Joined: Oct 29, 2001
Posts: 449
Got my voucher just now. I think I will give it a try.
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
Posts: 1902

I just got mine as well. *whews* It sounds like the forwarding mechanism's just a bit skewed, from the response I got.
Just something that should be looked into to make sure folks don't get deprived (or is that depraved ^_^) in the future.
Evelyn Cartagena-Meyer
Java Cert Herder
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Joined: Apr 12, 2002
Posts: 174
All,
Please be patient in receiving a voucher, Prometric has received over 1000 email requests for vouchers and with the holidays they are behind.
If you sent an email to Prometric for a voucher and the 5-7 business days have passed with no voucher number in site, please send me an emial at evelyn.cartagena@sun.com and I will personally check on the status. I will be back in the office on Monday, January 5th, 2004.
The exam number for the beta is 311-081, the 310-081 is for the live real version, they ARE the SAME exam "SCWCD 1.4", it's just different numbers to differentiate from the beta and real exam when it goes live in March.
Lot's of FREE voucher numbers are being sent out, but there are always candidates that request a voucher, sign up and never show up to the beta. Please request a voucher if you are actually going to take the beta exam. The voucher number is ONLY valid for this exam.
Again, I have allotted 5 hours for the beta to give you an opportunity to read and review each question and have the opportunity to give us your valuable comments.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Evelyn


Evelyn Cartagena-Meyer
Java Certification Program Manager
Michael Sullivan
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Joined: Dec 26, 2003
Posts: 235
Nick,
Thanks for your reply. Though I have been writing servlets and JSPs for the last year, I'm not as familiar with the specifications as I should be. I just received my voucher for the 1.4beta today, so I'll attack the newer test objectives. Thanks!
Zack Ponares
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Joined: Jun 20, 2003
Posts: 18
Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Hi Zack,

You have to provide your Prometric ID in order for Prometric to keep a record.
Nick.
[ December 30, 2003: Message edited by: Nicholas Cheung ]

Thanks for your reply Nicholas...and thanks Evelyn, for this great opportunity!
PS: I actually received my voucher# today in a reply to my original e-mail to prometric (the one where I didn't give my prometric ID). Happy New Year!
James Wang
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Joined: Sep 04, 2003
Posts: 102
I received Voucher Number also,but I dont know how to attend the exam, I am in mainland of China,i dont find contact about mainland of china,what should i do. thanks.


James<br /> <br />SCJP,SCWCD,SCBCD,SCDJWS,SCEA
Pawan Ramchandani
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Joined: Aug 15, 2003
Posts: 78
Also recieved mine today, fellow ranchers.


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Prakash Dwivedi
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Joined: Sep 28, 2002
Posts: 452
Hi all,
i have recieved my voucher today :-).
But surprisingly in the list of "Prometric Regional Service Centers" I could not find India. can't i appear for this exam in India?


Prakash Dwivedi (SCJP2, SCWCD, SCBCD)
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Binoj Viswanathan
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Joined: Feb 25, 2003
Posts: 85
Hi,
Vats this Beta?
pls reply


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Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
Posts: 1902

Originally posted by Evelyn Cartagena:
Please be patient in receiving a voucher, Prometric has received over 1000 email requests for vouchers and with the holidays they are behind.

Wow. I guess that means I oughta take it earlier as opposed to later. I'm glad I did get off my big rear and do some more email-chasing-down. (And, thankfully, that first week has my Regular Day Off, so I can go take it. Just means I need to take study guides with me on my birthday weekend.)
And thank you for the extra time, Evelyn. I hope that it helps with comments (as well as needed bathroom breaks for those of us taking it!).
Krishna Annangi
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Joined: Jan 02, 2004
Posts: 1
Hi I too got this message with the subject 'Out of Office AutoReply'
-----------
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Prometric, a Thomson business.
We are in the office Mon-Fri, 7:30AM to 4:00Pm, CST
Due to the recent transition of the CertManager database we are
currently backlogged for email resolution, and are behind in resolution for
any email sent 12/10/2003 or later. We sincerely apologize for any
inconvienence this delay causes. We appreciate your business and value your
feedback, and will respond to your email as soon as we are able.
Thank you for your continued patience during this time of transistion.
Please do not send multiple emails concerning the same requsest.
Sincerely,
SUN CertManager support
suncert@prometric.com
Prometric, a part of The Thomson Corporation
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Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by Prakash Dwivedi:
Hi all,
i have recieved my voucher today :-).
But surprisingly in the list of "Prometric Regional Service Centers" I could not find India. can't i appear for this exam in India?

I think Indian centers reports to Australia.


Groovy
Anupam Sinha
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Joined: Apr 13, 2003
Posts: 1088
Hi All
I searched the net and found the following contact details. I think that we need to call the nos. here.
Venkatesh Subramanian
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Joined: Sep 08, 2003
Posts: 7
Hi All,
I too got the free voucher today. In the mail I received from Prometric, the following is mentioned:
* India: Please contact your local Prometric Testing Center. Prometric Testing Centers are listed at www.2test.com
So, do contact your local Prometric Testing Centers (may be the testing center where you took your SCJP)
Venkatesh.
SCJP 1.4
rashmi date
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Joined: Nov 18, 2002
Posts: 42
Hi All,
i got the voucher too.i am just too tense now.plz let me know if SCECD exam study guide by-Hanukmant Deshmukh is sufficient or not?
please tell the usefull resources for the preperation of Beta.
Rashmi
SCJP 1.4
ritu singhal
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Joined: Nov 03, 2003
Posts: 4
Hi,
I too recieved my voucher today. Very less time for exam.
Any Suggestions are welcome
Ritu
 
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