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Aniruddh Surange
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Thanks a lot Jason....................



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Quentin Ng
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The Sun Java Programmer Plus certification beta will launch on July 22, 2009. Selected participants will be able to take the beta exam for free in select cities around the world between July 22, 2009 and July 31, 2009.


Seems the exam period is very short just last for around 10 days.
What are those selected citites?
And what is the objectives for the exam?

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Lucas Smith
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Are there any selected participants here, on the Java Ranch?


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N.Senthil Kumar
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Lukas Smith wrote:Are there any selected participants here, on the Java Ranch?



Participants will be notified by July 22, 2009.


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Nishant rty
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cchetan jain wrote:hi friends..after reading this thread.. i am a little bit confused now..i have not purchased the scjp voucher yet..and i am preparing for this exam from last 15 days..but after reading your posts i am confused that this is worthful exam or not??is there any mean of it or not??
please clear this confusion??


No reason to worry, your preparation will still pay you. Just go ahead . Your preparation at this moment will certainly help you clear the next version if it . So, three cheers dude
Nishant rty
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Jari Timonen wrote:Sun is going to retire SCJP. What do you think?

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Sure it will test a much detailed knowledge. But the lines and the tracks will still remain the same.After all a fundamental is a fundamental.
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Lukas Smith wrote:Are there any selected participants here, on the Java Ranch?


I applied, but have yet to hear back.

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Lucas Smith
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The same to me
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Unlike most Beta's, I get a feeling that Sun is going to be very selective in the candidates they choose. I don't think it's a matter of 'everyone that signs up before the end date' approach we have seen with other Sun Certification Beta Java exams.

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Lucas Smith
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First of all - you have to live opposite to the city in which the exam will take place.
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I applied too. I don't get the impression they will get back to anyone until application for the beta closes. It does say on the web "Participants will be notified by July 22, 2009."


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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I applied too. I don't get the impression they will get back to anyone until application for the beta closes. It does say on the web "Participants will be notified by July 22, 2009."


Yep. I was of the impression that they would notify us before that and the BETA would start on the 22nd. I think they notify us on the 22nd and the BETA starts a few days from then.


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Nishant rty
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so for how long does scjp 1.6 will exist from now? any ideas?

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The information that has been given is extremely sparse. They may not like the way the beta goes and rethink the whole thing. Nobody knows!

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Nishant rty wrote:so for how long does scjp 1.6 will exist from now? any ideas?



Then it depends on when Java SE 7 and 8 comes out. When SCJP7 comes out, SCJP5 will retire; when SCJP8 comes out SCJP6 retires. And when does JavaSE 7 coming out? late 2009 or some time in 2010?


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Henry Wong
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K. Tsang wrote:[Then it depends on when Java SE 7 and 8 comes out. When SCJP7 comes out, SCJP5 will retire; when SCJP8 comes out SCJP6 retires. And when does JavaSE 7 coming out? late 2009 or some time in 2010?


IMO, I think the SCJP for Java 1.4 was "retired" a bit too early -- there are still many Java 1.4 shops out there. I understand that progress is important, but reality should also dictate.

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Yeah, but I think that 'smart money' says that the SCJP 6 will get replaced with the SCJP 6 + certification, so the normal schedule will be interrupted. It's all conjecture though, but it sorta makes sense.

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Jason Irwin
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Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:Yeah, but I think that 'smart money' says that the SCJP 6 will get replaced with the SCJP 6 + certification, so the normal schedule will be interrupted. It's all conjecture though, but it sorta makes sense.

I bloody well hope not - I am just about to sit SCJP6. If they suddenly yank it, I am going to be less than happy!


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Jason Irwin wrote:
Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:Yeah, but I think that 'smart money' says that the SCJP 6 will get replaced with the SCJP 6 + certification, so the normal schedule will be interrupted. It's all conjecture though, but it sorta makes sense.

I bloody well hope not - I am just about to sit SCJP6. If they suddenly yank it, I am going to be less than happy!


They will provide a 90 day period before yanking it and thats a few days from now I'd think. No worries
Nishant rty
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Ok, but since scjp 6 has came out , scjp 1.4 hasn't retired or has it?
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SCJP 1.4 has been retired in October 2008.


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Nishant rty
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Jesper Young wrote:SCJP 1.4 has been retired in October 2008.

so,if a scjp certification is retired does it's importance get reduced? . Likewise in interviews?
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Nishant rty wrote:
Jesper Young wrote:SCJP 1.4 has been retired in October 2008.

so,if a scjp certification is retired does it's importance get reduced? . Likewise in interviews?


That is a whole new discussion all together. But to answer your question - It really depends on who is interviewing you. You can search this forum to find posts that discuss this topic
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[EDIT] Reposted by mistake. Now where did that delete post button go ? hmm...
Nishant rty
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How much preference is given to a guy with scjp certification ?
Also, as scjp certified guys are increasing at a good rate ,what will it lead to?
Nishant rty
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Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:Yeah, but I think that 'smart money' says that the SCJP 6 will get replaced with the SCJP 6 + certification, so the normal schedule will be interrupted. It's all conjecture though, but it sorta makes sense.

-Cameron McKenzie


By the way, who actually is 'smart money'?
Nishant rty
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Deepak Bala wrote:[EDIT] Reposted by mistake. Now where did that delete post button go ? hmm...


Where is that button?
Jason Irwin
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Deepak Bala wrote:They will provide a 90 day period before yanking it and thats a few days from now I'd think. No worries

So when I sit this and pass, my shiny new cert will be valid for about 3 months? Great. That's why I'm not happy. I don't want to have to sit effectively the same cert twice (I plan to do more after the SCJP).
Nishant rty
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Jason Irwin wrote:
Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:Yeah, but I think that 'smart money' says that the SCJP 6 will get replaced with the SCJP 6 + certification, so the normal schedule will be interrupted. It's all conjecture though, but it sorta makes sense.

I bloody well hope not - I am just about to sit SCJP6. If they suddenly yank it, I am going to be less than happy!

I will be doomed!
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Nishant rty wrote:
Deepak Bala wrote:[EDIT] Reposted by mistake. Now where did that delete post button go ? hmm...


Where is that button?


That button disappeared with the cut-over to JForum (January of this year).

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Jason Irwin wrote:
Deepak Bala wrote:They will provide a 90 day period before yanking it and thats a few days from now I'd think. No worries

So when I sit this and pass, my shiny new cert will be valid for about 3 months? Great. That's why I'm not happy. I don't want to have to sit effectively the same cert twice (I plan to do more after the SCJP).


I don't get the issue here... A SCJP is a SCJP. Does it really matter which SCJP test you took? In fact, when I see that someone has an SCJP 1.4 on the resume (that was taken years ago of course), I regard it as a person who took an SCJP, and has years of experience too.

In this case, the difference is between two different SCJP 6's -- how is that an invalidation of a cert?

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Deepak Bala
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In this case, the difference is between two different SCJP 6's -- how is that an invalidation of a cert?


Its not

That's why I'm not happy. I don't want to have to sit effectively the same cert twice (I plan to do more after the SCJP).


You dont have to. The SCJP has a validity for life.
Nishant rty
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henry wrote:I don't get the issue here... A SCJP is a SCJP. Does it really matter which SCJP test you took? In fact, when I see that someone has an SCJP 1.4 on the resume (that was taken years ago of course), I regard it as a person who took an SCJP, and has years of experience too.
In this case, the difference is between two different SCJP 6's -- how is that an invalidation of a cert?


The thing that matters is the score you get.A 100% ,awesome.
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