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Requisites for passing SCJP6 has changed

Milko Madariaga
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Hi. Do you know if multiple-choice question tells you how many answers to choose?

Thanks!
sneha pandey
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Milko Madariaga wrote:Hi. Do you know if multiple-choice question tells you how many answers to choose?

Thanks!



yes, all questions tell how many options need to be answered.
Jason Irwin
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Lukas Smith wrote:How do you know that passing score is 66%? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that 66% (40 good questions) is passing score?
I think it's unfair that Sun's site says something different.

I'm going by what was on the Prometric sheet. If their software thinks that 66% is a pass, you will fail if you only get 65%. Whether or not you can appeal is a good question.

I rather doubt that that is something you will need to worry about.


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Nitish Bangera
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That will be great if the questions tell you to choose the number of answers. I get the creeps with the choose all that apply questions.


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Thomas Tkac
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Charles Guo wrote: I just took the SCJP6 yesterday (7/27) and found it surprising that there was only 60 questions. I ended up with a 86% (52/60),


Hi,

how much time did you spent to prepare for exam? Did you study only (18 chapters) objectives from SCJP 6 Study Guide Exam 310-065?
Jason Irwin
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T Tkac, this thread is about the changes to the exam format. If you have a separate question, please start a new thread.

The answer to your question is in the FAQ.
Jordan Spell
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Was this answer ever settled?

60 Questions. 66% to pass? Confirmed?
Kamil Wojcik
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60 Questions. 66% to pass? Confirmed?

YES, On the SUN web page we can find: "Pass score: 66% (40 of 60 questions)".


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Lucas Smith
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They have already changed it. Lots of people was writing to them - I guess


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Jordan Spell
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Kamil Wojcik wrote:
60 Questions. 66% to pass? Confirmed?

YES, On the SUN web page we can find: "Pass score: 66% (40 of 60 questions)".


Thank you for the response.
Sérgio Lopes
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hi everybody

I was looking at the exam objectives and noted that 3 topics disappeared:

http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-065.xml

the three topics that were there before are:

"Develop code that declares both static and non-static methods, and - if appropriate - use method names that adhere to the JavaBeans naming standards. Also develop code that declares and uses a variable-length argument list."

"Develop code that serializes and/or de-serializes objects using the following APIs from java.io: DataInputStream, DataOutputStream, FileInputStream, FileOutputStream, ObjectInputStream, ObjectOutputStream and Serializable."

"Given a scenario, write code that makes appropriate use of wait, notify, or notifyAll."

and they also disappeared from SCJP 5 too:

http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-055.xml

does anyone know anything about this?


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Lucas Smith
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Jason Irwin
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Official: My gab is absolutely flabbered!*

Call me cynical, but is Sun just trying to boost the numbers of SCJPs? Seems to me that that some very important concepts have been ripped out of the exam. I'm just glad mine is over and done with!

Oh, and the pass mark on the SUn page is sill 58.33%, not 66% as above.

*As it's not a common English word: "flabbergasted" - to be dumbfounded, amazed, stunned etc.
The kind of corruption I used is a rather old joke...struggling to remember where it came from.
Lucas Smith
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Jason Irwin wrote:Official: My gab is absolutely flabbered!*
Seems to me that that some very important concepts have been ripped out of the exam. I'm just glad mine is over and done with!

Why? The exam has become easier.
Nevertheless you passed also the cut version - the info on the website was out of date. You said you hadn't got very wide questions.

The reply from who2contact[at]sun.com

Thank you for contacting Sun Certification Customer Support. We are happy to assist you.
The website is now corrected. You will need to answer atleast 35 questions correctly for a passing score.
Jason Irwin
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Lukas Smith wrote:Why? The exam has become easier.

Exactly. Whatever value it had has been further diminished by making the exam easier and whilst I think the exam spent a lot of time testing things that I do not consider relevant, topics such as threading are vital to a professional programmer.

Nevertheless you passed also the cut version - the info on the website was out of date. You said you hadn't got very wide questions.

I am not claiming otherwise. But I am just glad that I no longer have to worry about what random changes Sun make to the SCJP. I am, however, worried about the impact on the whole Sun certification.
Sabeena Surendran
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I gave the SCJP 6 exam yesterday, and passed with a 93%.
My score sheet said the pass score was 58%. There were 60 questions to be answered in 3 hours.

For the most part, the questions were quite simple.
I used the Kathy Sierra book and downloaded the mock exam from this site http://www.examlab.tk/ to prepare. The questions in the mock are good and much tougher than the real one, and the GUI is very similar to whats in the real exam.

Just one more thing. The drag and drop answers get reset when you try to review them, so be sure of your answer before you hit Done on them!
Bert Bates
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Hi Guys,

I got some news from Sun concerning the updates to the SCJP 6 exam. I shared the details over here:

http://www.coderanch.com/t/458104/Programmer-Certification-SCJP/certification/Info-concerning-updates-SCJP-exam

hth,

Bert


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Joy Rose
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Sérgio Lopes wrote:hi everybody

I was looking at the exam objectives and noted that 3 topics disappeared:

http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-065.xml

the three topics that were there before are:

"Develop code that declares both static and non-static methods, and - if appropriate - use method names that adhere to the JavaBeans naming standards. Also develop code that declares and uses a variable-length argument list."

"Develop code that serializes and/or de-serializes objects using the following APIs from java.io: DataInputStream, DataOutputStream, FileInputStream, FileOutputStream, ObjectInputStream, ObjectOutputStream and Serializable."

"Given a scenario, write code that makes appropriate use of wait, notify, or notifyAll."



Bert Bates wrote:Hi Guys,

I got some news from Sun concerning the updates to the SCJP 6 exam. I shared the details over here:

http://www.coderanch.com/t/458104/Programmer-Certi...o-concerning-updates-SCJP-exam

hth,

Bert


Bert,
Does this mean that the objectives that Sergio noticed were missing are no longer covered on the SCJP 6 exam?

Thanks!


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Bert Bates
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I'm not 100% sure, but I'd bet $100 that here's what's in or out with regards to the updated objectives:

- statics and non-statics - still in, because this topic comes up in several places throughout the objectives
- JavaBeans - out
- var-args - out
- serialization - out
- wait / notify - out

hth,

Bert
Shahriar Husain
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The new format is:

60 Questions --> 180 Minutes

Pass Mark is 66%

It appears that questions from some objectives and sections appear more in number than the others. So if anyone is weaker in one area and ends up with more question from those areas .. then well .. it would be hard to pass.

* This is what I found out during my exam.
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See this topic by Bert Bates.


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Lucas Smith
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Shahriar Husain wrote:The new format is:

60 Questions --> 180 Minutes

Pass Mark is 66%

It appears that questions from some objectives and sections appear more in number than the others. So if anyone is weaker in one area and ends up with more question from those areas .. then well .. it would be hard to pass.

* This is what I found out during my exam.

Passing mark is 58%. OVER OVER OVER AGAIN: 58% or 35 questions
Shahriar Husain
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Lukas Smith wrote:
Shahriar Husain wrote:The new format is:

60 Questions --> 180 Minutes

Pass Mark is 66%

It appears that questions from some objectives and sections appear more in number than the others. So if anyone is weaker in one area and ends up with more question from those areas .. then well .. it would be hard to pass.

* This is what I found out during my exam.

Passing mark is 58%. OVER OVER OVER AGAIN: 58% or 35 questions



Things are really confusing. And sorry I cannot either agree or disagree with you.

My Score Report Clearly Wrote in Bold:

PASSING SCORE: 66% YOUR SCORE: 86%


I guess its confusing a lot of people ..

The official sun website says Pass score: 58.33 % (35 of 60) and they printed out different required passing score on my score report. This is funny.
Lucas Smith
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I wrote to Sun.

35 questions!!!

You had the old version of the card.
Jason Irwin
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The Prometric card is simply wrong.

It Prometric software will fail you if you do not get 66%, but then Sun will get in contact and reverse the fail as long as you got 58.33% or better. This has been reported happening on some threads here.
Suranga Nath Kasthurirathne
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yep.. the passing score is 66 % i passed 1.6 on the 1st of this month and got 78% and its 60 questions over three hours....
Nitish Bangera
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Seems it has changed now..... well its 35 questions
Jason Irwin
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Suranga Nath Kasthurirathne wrote:yep.. the passing score is 66 % i passed 1.6 on the 1st of this month and got 78% and its 60 questions over three hours....

Nup. It's 58.33% and has been since Sun changed it. For some reason Prometic think is 66%.
 
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