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Mark Spritzler
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Very good read there.

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ankur rathi wrote:Why would anyone buy a new gadget for watching videos, listening to music & light computing stuff etc?


Be careful, you can't watch any FLASH videos. Jobs hates Flash. There is no Flash support on the Apple iPad, with or without wings
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Two main things that strike me as very weird about the iPad:

1) no multi-tasking
2) complete Apple control of all 'apps for that'

I understand how multi-tasking has the potential for bad applications to cause system crashes, but operating systems have had multi-tasking since the middle-1960s. We know how to do that. Sure, Windows is a classic example of what not to do, but there are plenty of operating systems that can multi-task. How can a modern computer appliance expect to be one application at a time?

2) the Apple approval process is completely closed, undocumented and opaque. There is no freedom in following the policies of Chairman Steve, no matter how benevolent he tries to be.

To me, these are the big ones. The lack of camera, lack of USB and HDMI, etc. are consistent with Chairmain Steve's world view.
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Pat Farrell wrote: The lack of camera, lack of USB and HDMI, etc. are consistent with Chairmain Steve's world view.


No USB port???

Not for me, I think.
How do I get the movies in it at the first place? Does it have DVD drive?
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ankur rathi wrote:How do I get the movies in it at the first place? Does it have DVD drive?


Nope. Chairman Jobs doesn't believe in ports, they are ugly. And when he has them, he changes them every couple of years. I have a less than 3 year old Mac Book (or my wife does) and it has a "mini-DVI" port, but all new Mac Books have Display Ports. Different cables, more money for Apple
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Yeah, progress is such a terrible thing! Should it still be using VGA?


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Bear Bibeault wrote:Yeah, progress is such a terrible thing! Should it still be using VGA?


Progress? How is "Display Port" better than DVI? All it does is add money to the Apple account.

Even HDMI is not really better than DVI, and many electrical engineers say its worse. It does add audio, but it also adds the idiotic copy protection that Hollywood wanted. DRM has been tried before, and consumers hate it.


As to what the iPad should have as a video port, I don't know. But anything, even Bear's VGA beats what it has today.
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I was actually talking about the Pro, but to answer your question: smaller. Whether you see that as progress or not is up to you.
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Bear Bibeault wrote: to answer your question: smaller.
The Display Port is not meaningfully smaller than the mini-DVI.

Wife's Mac is a "book", not the "pro". Its a nice PC, nice solid OS, but its not the laptop for me.
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iPad Vs Stone


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Ulf Dittmer wrote:
Jesper Young wrote:no camera, no USB connection (or does it have one?)

Just about everyone already has a camera these days in their mobile phone; and since it has Bluetooth, I wouldn't be surprised if it became possible soon to share images -and possibly other data- with an iPhone (and possibly other phones).

One possible use for the iPad is for example that I'd want to use it for Skype. I can imagine sitting on the couch with the iPad, talking to someone via Skype with it. But it doesn't have a camera, so that would limit Skype to audio only. So not having a camera feels like a big disadvantage.


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So....you are saying its just a really unweildy mobile phone? Kind of like an iPhone you can't put in your pocket?


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Paul Sturrock wrote:So....you are saying its just a really unweildy mobile phone? Kind of like an iPhone you can't put in your pocket?


Yeah, exactly that. But it lacks phone capabilities.

There probably are some pockets that it would fit in, usually on clown pants.
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I can see this working as a Digital photo frame.


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Arvind Mahendra wrote:I can see this working as a Digital photo frame.


Sure you can get a digital photo frame for $70, or buy this thing from Apple for $500 or more.
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Back at the Fuehrerhauptquartier, the C-in-C doesn't like it either:...]
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Bear Bibeault wrote:...I think that this blog entry raises some insightful and interesting points.

Indeed, an interesting perspective. I think they're on to something with that.


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marc weber wrote:
Bear Bibeault wrote:...I think that this blog entry raises some insightful and interesting points.

Indeed, an interesting perspective. I think they're on to something with that.

Hmmm... Early data seems to support this perspective: Apple Insider - 44% of iPad buyers view Apple's tablet as notebook replacement. I'm surprised at the high numbers, but not the phenomenon.
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I just downloaded a 3D pinball game for the iPad.

Good gravy, it's good!

Game play is shown about 2:15 into the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZxu6XxBv9w

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Bear Bibeault wrote:I just downloaded a 3D pinball game for the iPad.

Good gravy, it's good!

Game play is shown about 2:15 into the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZxu6XxBv9w



That *almost* makes me want an iPad, just to play that game.


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I've never been a gamer, but I have to admit I'm really hooked on some of the iPad games. Simple, retro stuff like Warheads (Missile Command) and Blocks Classic (Breakout).

And have you seen the $1.99 Wolfram Alpha app? Wow!
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Between the book-reader capability, and the game platform, it's more than enough for me. But then there's all the other stuff too.

It's great to take into meetings (rather than unplugging my MacBook Pro from everything) in order to look stuff up on the web (we use online tools like Rally and Bugzilla), as well as to take notes. (And play pinball with the sounds off when things get boring.)
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Bear Bibeault wrote:I just downloaded a 3D pinball game for the iPad...

Yeah, I like that one too!
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Not bad for a frivolous niche device during uncertain economic times...

Apple Insider - Apple selling 1.2 million iPads per month, rate could double by holidays.
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I know a lot of people who predicted it would be a complete bomb.

Personally, I thought it'd do "pretty good".

Explains why I write code for a living. I'm terrible at predicting the market.
 
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