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I agree. Here's the link - kvetch

 
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Kenny,
Thanks for sharing that. As far as I know, you are the first to give that perspective. It's an interesting one.
 
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This thread got me to create an account just so I could post about it :-)

I came to it because for a while now, when I on occasion visit a JavaRanch thread, I've seen the fake JRebel 'posts' and they really annoy me. I Google'd JRebel link spam wondering what other people thought about it because I thought they were just that, link spam posts that JRebel was making. This puts a sour taste in my mouth towards JRebel and while I am aware of their products I'm put off by their advertising approach in this case. After giving it more then the few seconds thought I had at that point I realized that clearly the operators of JavaRanch approve of this or else they would be fighting to clean it up.

Then I found this thread which lays things out.

I've got no problem with a site making some money from advertising. From my perspective though I would rather see an honest banner ad. I wouldn't have had the negative reaction to JRebel that I initially did in this case. It didn't get me to click on it, it just made me think they were a shady company.

FWIW I frequent Stack Overflow way more then any other resource site. Its for a number of reasons but one of them is the user eperience. They have a fantastic user eperience. No fake spam link posts, now sign up to / login to read the answer nonsense that some other sites have.

(and yes the ' 'yz key - can you guess which one - broke on my keyboard today)
 
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Noah White wrote: now sign up to / login to read the answer nonsense that some other sites have.

For what it's worth, we hate that too!
 
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Noah White wrote:This thread got me to create an account just so I could post about it :-)

I came to it because for a while now, when I on occasion visit a JavaRanch thread, I've seen the fake JRebel 'posts' and they really annoy me. I Google'd JRebel link spam wondering what other people thought about it because I thought they were just that, link spam posts that JRebel was making. This puts a sour taste in my mouth towards JRebel and while I am aware of their products I'm put off by their advertising approach in this case. After giving it more then the few seconds thought I had at that point I realized that clearly the operators of JavaRanch approve of this or else they would be fighting to clean it up.

Then I found this thread which lays things out.

I've got no problem with a site making some money from advertising. From my perspective though I would rather see an honest banner ad. I wouldn't have had the negative reaction to JRebel that I initially did in this case. It didn't get me to click on it, it just made me think they were a shady company.

FWIW I frequent Stack Overflow way more then any other resource site. Its for a number of reasons but one of them is the user eperience. They have a fantastic user eperience. No fake spam link posts, now sign up to / login to read the answer nonsense that some other sites have.

(and yes the ' 'yz key - can you guess which one - broke on my keyboard today)


Hello, I'm new to this page and Java world. As the previous commenter did, I want to share my experience with this ad.

Some time ago, I was having a hard time trying to solve an issue (right now I don't remember exactly what the issue was about).
By googling for a response, I get into one of this forum posts, which I found interesting and motivated me to sign up and ask for more information (which obviously, for some reason, I have not did). After reading and have a little understanding about the topic (remember that I'm kinda new for Java and to the forum), I got to the "I agree" link, which persuaded me to look for more information on the topic.

Yes, I noticed there was not user or date on the post. I told myself "maybe is a banned or retired user or whatever". When I clicked on the link, I entered that amazing advertiser site. First I look for the "I agree" part, which I quickly realized It didnt exists. In that moment I felt like tricked onto a virus, so I ran all my antivirus measures. Yes, I lose some of my time.

After that, I closed the advertiser page, also this forum page and start to ignore CodeRanch on any Google result... until now that I was reading another forum (maybe porn site, maybe) and found the same "I agree" format, which led me to search for it on Google, resulting on that Im here because it was the first search result.

I personally dont like this ad and would never put it on my pages, but its a matter of cost and benefits, which obviously, the owner of this site has considered wisely. If it is good for the owner, who am I to complain?

Just a visitor sharing its experience
Zam
 
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Anyway, welcome to the Ranch
 
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I just wanted to point out that the Yiddish word "kvetch" is a homonym. It is used to mean complain (like the creator of the thread used it), and it is also used for "squeeze" or "click", because of that a Yiddish speaker could interpret the title of this thread "I agree. Here's the link - click it".
 
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It seems I'm not the first to create an account on CodeRanch just so I could respond to this thread. I have to agree that this advertising technique undermines the credibility of both CodeRanch and the advertisers.

I'm a professional Java developer, and I've been seeing CodeRanch posts in my search results off and on for a few years now. I noticed the "I agree" ads and immediately assumed they were spam-bot posts on my very first visit (as far as I can recall, I never clicked on one but just assumed it was spam based on the wording), which led me to mentally categorize CodeRanch as "one of those old, dead forums that's been taken over by spammers". Whenever I ended up on CodeRanch, I would immediately go back to my search results, usually without even bothering to read the post and certainly without seriously considering any of the answers. I also mentally categorized the advertisers (in particular Aspose, which seems to show up on every post, for me) as shady malware peddlers. At some point, I noticed that the ads were not replies to the thread, but simply some form of banner advertising, which made me distrust CodeRanch even more—beyond simply not bothering to clean up huge amounts of spam, it appeared to me that the site was knowingly profiting off of what I would unequivocally categorize as, at best, deceptive advertising. After clicking on yet another CodeRanch link today, I exasperatedly asked myself, "Why does anybody even bother asking questions on that junk site?" Then I did a web search for "coderanch deceptive advertising" and found this blog post that linked to this page, and also pointed out (to my complete shock) that CodeRanch is actually a highly ranked coding Q&A site.

Anyway, after reading through this thread, it seems to me that CodeRanch really isn't intending to be dishonest, which is why I bothered taking the time to register and provide my input. I would suggest that you may be taking an extremely short-sighted view of your advertising—these links may generate more clicks in the short term than a traditional banner ad (undeniably due to people being duped into thinking the links are actually relevant to the discussion rather than from any real interest in the product being advertised), but in the long term it generates ill will and turns users like me away from the site.
 
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