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Yes, I need a Head First EJB 3.0 book!

Anirban Basu
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If it was avaialble I could have started for BCD right away.

Hope we get that soon.


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Vaibhav Jaiswal
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the last post on this thread is in 2008 and this is 2009. Is the book for EJB 3.0 released or not I wanted to shift to JEE, After searching on Google it does no t seem that the book is still released.
If it is not what other book will be a good fit to study for SCBCD.
Niranjan Deshpande
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I do not think there is any confirmed new around that the book will be out.

Since we do not have the book, the preparation is indeed a gruelling effort, I swear!


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Deepika Joshi
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It would be great to have Head First for EJB 3.x exam....
Every thing covered topic by topic.... study the book & take exam ....
very easy way to pass the exam....
hats off to Head first team.....

But I think real path to pass is not Head First....
real path is objectives of Exam... sound stupid ... and many of ranch member are going to hit me back...
yes, why we need spoon feeding....
we have objective...
we have books (EJB n Action, Pro EJB, Mastering EJB, spec....)
read any book...
check with objective... what is left (not covered in your study)
read that... take free mock exam....
you have this forum to share your doubts...
cherry on top ... you have author of books, members already pass the exam to answer the question....

If head first is there, I would be first to get it.... but since its not there, alternative path is not tough try that....
all the best....
Kram Nart
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It would be nice to have a HF EJB for sure, but from the looks of it, we would be looking at another year or so before we can get our hands on it, and even then, you're taking a chance with the new authors as the ones we're familiar with have already expressed that they're not interested.

I'd say give it up and use whatever resources that are available right now. I'm doing it. I'm curious as to what the passing % among EJB 3 test takers who have gone without HF though - I see the 'passed with xx%' threads from time to time but I wonder that for every of those threads out there, how many have failed with xx%?

I do feel like I'm taking more of a risk without a dedicated exam preparation material like HF but it's either that or waiting for something that may or may not come to fruition.


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Roberto Perillo
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Well, we would all really like to see a Head First EJB 3 book!


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Niranjan Deshpande
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Well said Joshi Ma'm!

Everything is out there in the market for the exam takers to grab,study, pass.

HF approach indeed simplifies the exam by 50%! The challenge is diluted the moment you take the HF exam guide in your hand.

Nonethless, it's a structured and target oriented way of learning and achieving the certification benchmark, in optimum time!

Today, it's been almost 2months that I am reading EJB books . I feel I am aware of the concepts. But am I ready for the exam? Not really. Things to cram, things to be cautious etc. are what that are needed for the exam. After reading in action, pro ejb3.0 books, i can not say i know EJB3.0 unless I pass the exam (which is possible fast, only when you get a HF book)

Well...phew..
Higor Zardo
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me toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Amit Ghorpade
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As Bert would say - check the Head First Labs


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Niranjan Deshpande
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Hi Amit,

Are you talking about this video?
Joe Harry
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Deepika Joshi wrote:It would be great to have Head First for EJB 3.x exam....
Every thing covered topic by topic.... study the book & take exam ....
very easy way to pass the exam....
hats off to Head first team.....

But I think real path to pass is not Head First....
real path is objectives of Exam... sound stupid ... and many of ranch member are going to hit me back...
yes, why we need spoon feeding....
we have objective...
we have books (EJB n Action, Pro EJB, Mastering EJB, spec....)
read any book...
check with objective... what is left (not covered in your study)
read that... take free mock exam....
you have this forum to share your doubts...
cherry on top ... you have author of books, members already pass the exam to answer the question....

If head first is there, I would be first to get it.... but since its not there, alternative path is not tough try that....
all the best....


My feeling is with just the objectives it might take 3 months but with a Head First it might take just a month to finish the exam.


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sachin verma
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I am waiting for this book to start my prep from a long time.

Please Hurry up Guys.........


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Aravind Madishetty
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Even I need Head First EJB Book.
khaled Jamal
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I think EJB3 in action is an excellent book, It is written in a great manner and covers a lot of SCBCD objectives, just take a look


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Niranjan Deshpande
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jothi said it right []

will it be out in 2009?
Joe Harry
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Hope Bert listens to all of us!
Vishal Chugh
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Bert!!! Please listen to us .

This thread length growing each single day

I reallly miss HF SCBCD 5.0 book , Please start writing it then it would be easier for my kids atleast to get through SCBCD exam :P

I was going through some very famous book (can't name here) , its quite verbose , deviates from main agenda every second, I slept thrice reading it .
sachin verma
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Even I fell Very sleepy when I read other book...I guess,my expectations are very high now as I have read 3 head first books.
And other book are not even near to that.
So it is like we are habitual now and we need the head first book for each and every subject..
So please hurry up guys...

vinayak chobe
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Even I fell Very sleepy when I read other book...I guess,my expectations are very high now as I have read 3 head first books.
And other book are not even near to that.
So it is like we are habitual now and we need the head first book for each and every subject..
So please hurry up guys...


ya very true...
expectations are very high now and
so many ppl are waiting for this book... Head first guys...


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Arvind Mahendra
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Book is going to rock when its finally released to the general public. I'll inevitably find myself in a stampeded the day it has its grand opening but I'll definately be camping outside O'Reilly's office just so I can see it first. Even I want the book. Expectations are definately high and patience is very low this year.


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Reza Rahman
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Folks,

I am trying my best to make the time to write an HF book on EJB, despite my schedule. However, I do believe it is better to target EJB 3.1 and related technologies at this point. I am truly sorry there isn't already an EJB 3.0 cert book out there.

Best regards,
Reza

PS: I think it is a good idea to not needlessly try to engage Bert and Cathy on this. Clearly, this is not a worthwhile endeavor for them personally at this point but they would try to help. It might be important to remember it has been a little while since EJB 2 was out. It is not too unreasonable that the interests/lives of the original authors have changed in significant ways...


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Niranjan Deshpande
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Reza,

Does that mean we should expect an all together new book for an al together new EJB technology 3.1?
Reza Rahman
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Niranjan,

You should expect a book written in the HF style covering either just EJB 3.1 or EJB 3.1+JCDI+JPA 2.0.

Hope it helps,
Reza
Darya Akbari
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Reza Rahman wrote:Niranjan,

You should expect a book written in the HF style covering either just EJB 3.1 or EJB 3.1+JCDI+JPA 2.0.

Hope it helps,
Reza



Are we talking about a Study Guide like the HF EJB 2.0 was one?


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Reza Rahman
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Darya,

Yes, we are talking about a study guide covering all or part of the SCBD, depending of what exactly the SCBD covers for Java EE 6. I (or another author) would have to hash that out with the publisher.

Hope it helps,
Reza
Darya Akbari
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Reza Rahman wrote:Darya,

Yes, we are talking about a study guide covering all or part of the SCBD, depending of what exactly the SCBD covers for Java EE 6. I (or another author) would have to hash that out with the publisher.

Hope it helps,
Reza


Sounds great.

I wonder why at headfirstlabs.com Brett McLaughlin does not mention your name as the new HF EJB author.
Reza Rahman
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Darya,

I have not signed up yet and am still talking with them. It really would be very tough for me in terms of time, so I have to weigh it carefully, especially against writing a second edition of EJB 3 in Action or some other projects I have in mind.

The HF series is really ideal for young, first-time authors. Unfortunately, I am neither. However, I do wish to fill a need for the community and can certainly write an HF book comfortably in terms of style.

Cheers,
Reza
Niranjan Deshpande
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Can we expect this book now?
Ulf Dittmer
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Can we expect this book now?

If you check the web site you'll see that authors are still being looked for (and, actually, there's nothing that reads like a firm commitment to publish the book at all). So anyone who wants to wait for it may have to wait for a long time.


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Reza Rahman
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Yes, I have started the audition process as a secondary author. An experienced Java EE architect named Dan Bush is taking lead on the effort. He is also a good friend of mine. Keep in mind, the book will target a future version of the SCBD at this point.

Hope it helps,
Reza
sachin verma
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@Reza Rahman

I guess, you guys started working with the book. And now it would take near about 6 months to complete that book.

Can we expect it earlier than that?

Reza Rahman
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Don't have an idea of a time-line yet. That depends on a lot of things such as how we do on the audition, how much time we can devote to this and exactly what the next SCBD will cover.

Hope it helps,
Reza
sachin verma
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I have sent an audition too. It took me 15 days to complete 12 pages. Although I could not arrange the text in a very amused manner. I could not arrange the font like skippy sharp.But I think they have already decided whom to pick.
I can't say it for sure but you guys might be already working with the book.
Reza Rahman
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Obviously, audition decisions are up to HF Labs and I have no insight on it. It is good to know other folks are interested in doing this. I am sure one possibility here is collaboration provided the results of the audition.

Best regards,
Reza
Niranjan Deshpande
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Wow.. a HFEJB for 3.1! That would be awesome! till then we can get the 3.0 certification...
Mark Garland
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Hi,

I read this thread with excitement as this is a book that's sorely needed.

I'm also very pleased to hear of possible involvement from Reza:
1, as I'm chomping my way through EJB3 In Action (of which Reza was one of the 3 authors) and have found it so far to be the best book on the subject I've found
2, as I have received numerous helpful replies on this forum from him personally.

I've no doubt that if this book is produced, it will be a best seller, helping many new students of EJB.

Thanks,

MG


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Niranjan Deshpande
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Yes,

I believe that the EJB3.x community will increase by leaps and bounds once this book is out!

Also, Sun's BCD3.x certification revenues will propel indirectly because of this book!

WE ALL ARE WAITING!
Kathiresan Chinna
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Hello Guys,

Is the Head First EJB 3.0 book released ?

Thanks
Kathir
Mudit Srivastava
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HF EJB3.0 would be a sure buy for anyone..
John Willeams White
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Reza Rahman wrote:Darya,

Yes, we are talking about a study guide covering all or part of the SCBD, depending of what exactly the SCBD covers for Java EE 6. I (or another author) would have to hash that out with the publisher.


Reza, isn't a new version of the SCBD exam years away? Although most Java EE 6 specifications are currently in their final draft stage, I personally don't see Java EE 6 happening this year. So we'll be talking at least about 2010. Historically, Sun has been quite slow to come up with new exams after they release some technology, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was another 2, 3 years at least before Sun even starts thinking about the possibility of revising the SCBD exam.

On the one hand I understand this strategy. The value if an exam may be seriously undermined if it gets obsolete at least every other year. On the other hand, it's impossible to get certified on a new Sun technology. Especially when a technology is new, the demand for qualified people able to work with it is the highest.
 
 
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