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FREE Certification Beta: Sun Certified Specialist Netbeans IDE

Milton Ochoa
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Originally posted by KHP Virajith:

I also wanna head to the SCBCD 5, if I could win the battle with time!


All of us are fighting with time, but we need to get time from this no exist.

John Emory
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@KHP Virajith:
Can you give me few sites that you were using to study to scmad ?
John Emory
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By the way, there are different frameworks in each version of the IDE.
For example, in the 6.1 there is Hibernate support. How can we know which frameworks are there then ?

I even saw documentation saying that Tapestry is in the IDE, even though I dont remember this.
Milton Ochoa
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Originally posted by John Dantas:
By the way, there are different frameworks in each version of the IDE.
For example, in the 6.1 there is Hibernate support. How can we know which frameworks are there then ?

I even saw documentation saying that Tapestry is in the IDE, even though I dont remember this.


The framework support are for:

Struct
JSF
Spring
Unnikrishnan Nair
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To be precise

JSF
Visual JSF
Struts
Spring


SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS, SCSNI, SCEA 5, PMP, Six Sigma Green Belt, Certified Scrum Master
Vyas Sanzgiri
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Enrico has explained very well.

Learn every panel and option in the Options window and from the Project properties.

I got 10 questions about how to change Java platform/ version - whether to change the java platform or the source/ binary type.

Questions repeat multiple times.

how do you share jars between applications. directory for shared libraries etc/

some questions about CVS and versioning

free form projects

few questions about plugins and installation

Few question about GUI editor

profiler does not come in depth. They just ask basic difference between heap, VM telem, CPU and memory profiling.

It is very easy exam if you have learnt the basics.


===Vyas Sanzgiri===
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Khp Virajith
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Hello John Dantas,


@KHP Virajith:
Can you give me few sites that you were using to study to scmad ?


Even though your question is NOT relevant to this thread which is on SCSNI Beta exam, I'm writing a reply here to answer your question. As you already know the available resources for SCMAD are relatively rare and there's no study guide specifically written for SCMAD exam covering all of its objectives. And there are lots of online resources for J2ME but completeness and coverage of some of these online resources with respect to the SCMAD exam are not in a satisfactory level. Therefore I can't recommend any online resource on SCMAD exam. I referred the book Beginning J2ME Novice to Professional-Third Edition for SCMAD exam and that book covers lots of grounds relevant to the exam. So you can compare the SCMAD objectives list with book's content and study only the relevant parts. (For example, the later part of the book covers J2ME Bluetooth : OBEX API, PIM API, etc. and thy aren't exam objectives)

The only online resource I can recommend as it's really useful for the exam is Sathya Srinivasan's Notes. Unfortunately, I can't remember the link and you may get it form SCMAD forum where the link had been published several times. (You can do a search and find it). Also the CLDC, MIDP, WMA, MMAPI APIs provide really useful information. (You may find these APIs in the "docs" folder of wireless toolkit installation). If you wanna get the crystal clear view on each and every aspect of J2ME technologies you should refer the relevant specs..

Cheers!
Virajith


SCJP, SCWCD, SCMAD, SCSNI
Rory Marquis
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Hi All

I haven't used the IDE for Web Projects for a year, and I was on 5.5 back then, so a couple of the questions I struggled on there. I think I did OK, probably as well as I had hoped, but probably better had I done more web projects recently. Still if I had done it a year ago, I wouldn't have known much about the basic projects

I have also been using 6.5 for a while now, but I hope that the configuration hasn't changed too much, I didn't think it had. There was one question about compilation and I put a comment that if I were using 6.5 that option C (or whatever it was) would have been correct because of the Save on Compile lol).

Some of the questions whether to change the JDK or the source/byte level I thought were tricky, and obviously in some cases either would have sufficed so it was a judgement call strictly based upon the exact wording of the question. On these I tried to put a comment explaining that both were valid IMO.

I made sure that I made as many constructive comments as I could in during the exam. And I am 98% sure that one of the questions was about Free-Form projects, which I have done little on... however It was a "(Choose two)" yet options C and D had the same images of the "Files" tree. I pointed this out to the test centre and put a long comment.

There were a few questions that I guessed at, mostly the Web and Free Form projects. I know I also got an VCS question wrong too because it was like 2 hours in and my brain was a little fuzzy by then. I also haven't done profiling for about a year, so I am a bit rusty on that too. But I think I did ok, hopefully will pass with a good grade, but I am eager to see


Do we know how many people took it in Beta form?

Ror
[ November 03, 2008: Message edited by: Rory Marquis ]
Jose Vieira
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hello guy's

I'm going make the exam now!!!

At night i'll post my experience !!!



[ November 04, 2008: Message edited by: Jos� Vieira ]
[ November 04, 2008: Message edited by: Jos� Vieira ]

<b>Jose Vieira</b><br /><i>Sun Certified Java Associate 1.0<br />Sun Certified Java Programmer 1.4</i>
Rory Marquis
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Good Luck Jos�
Khp Virajith
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Hello All,

Today is the last day of the Beta testing period of the SCSNI exam. So let's see who is the last lucky guy doing the exam today and end this thread.

Good Luck for all last minute exam takers!

Cheers!
Virajith
Rory Marquis
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Surely this thread will live on in 6 to 8 weeks?
Khp Virajith
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Yeah, exactly true...

This thread will be dragging over for next few months discussing the SCSNI scores and obviously will be filled with feedbacks on SCSNI evaluation criteria.

Cheers!
Virajith
John Emory
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Did my test yesterday...

Very tiring and many many questions that ask the "same thing". For example, how to change the SDK for development/deployment/compilation. Just one question with a screenshot and very few profiling questions.

Yeah its a pity that takes 6-8 weeks so the result comes out. Does anyone knows what is the passing criteria that they are going to use ? Like 60% ?
Khp Virajith
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Hi,

In my opinion, the question bank they have used for SCSNI-Beta is very limited. When looking at the feedbacks posted by the fellows, we feel that all we have answered to same kind of questions and the pattern is same for everyone. And there were lots of question covering the same topic that made examinees exhaustive as they appeared to be asking same question again and again. I think, Sun decides the passing mark for SCSNI exam based on the SCSNI-Beta exam takers marks. Anyway we have to be patient until they release results.

til then,
Cheers!
Virajith
Jose Vieira
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hi guys,

About my exam:

Some questions are very hard, if you not have experience with Netbeans, you will have problems. The help of Netbeans is very good, but not enough, you must practice, because some questions experience was required.

about the questions:

some questions about CVS and versioning;

some questions about how to change Java platform/ version, how to change the java version for source and run;

very questions how do you share jars between applications. directory for shared libraries etc;

very question how do you debug application(local and remote);

few questions about free form projects;

few questions about plugins and installation;

Few question about GUI editor;

Some question about profiler;

very question about Refactory;

I hope to spend, if God want, now have to await the outcome

until the next...
Rory Marquis
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It was a bit of a tiring exam, will be interesting to know the range of results and how much preparation each person put in for them.
Hong Anderson
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Hmph, an IDE certification? Never expect it.


SCJA 1.0, SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCJP 5.0, SCEA 5, SCBCD 5; OCUP - Fundamental, Intermediate and Advanced; IBM Certified Solution Designer - OOAD, vUML 2; SpringSource Certified Spring Professional
Rory Marquis
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Originally posted by Kengkaj Sathianpantarit:
Hmph, an IDE certification? Never expect it.


Never expect what?
Hong Anderson
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Originally posted by Rory Marquis:


Never expect what?


I think its value is near to zero, so I never expect whoever will issue a IDE certification.
Rory Marquis
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Originally posted by Kengkaj Sathianpantarit:


I think its value is near to zero, so I never expect whoever will issue a IDE certification.


I see.

Well I guess not everyone is going to share your opinion, but then that's what is good about the world

Any qualified person surely wants to be qualified in the tools they use right? For example, Do you think that surgeons don't have training and certifications for laser eye surgery machines?
Hong Anderson
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Originally posted by Rory Marquis:


I see.

Well I guess not everyone is going to share your opinion, but then that's what is good about the world

Any qualified person surely wants to be qualified in the tools they use right? For example, Do you think that surgeons don't have training and certifications for laser eye surgery machines?


I think it's very specific but not deep enough certification.

Specific is not bad, Ph.D. study is about very specific and very in-depth.
But IMO, very specific but not in-depth is not very useful.

It's good if Sun issues NetBeans Platform certification, I think it's more interesting.
Milton Ochoa
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Some one that takes this certification, have the results yet?
Leonardo Pinho
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http://www.coderanch.com/t/423551/po/certification/Cleared-Sun-Certified-Specialist-Netbeans
[ December 16, 2008: Message edited by: Leonardo Pinho ]


Leonardo Pinho
SJCP2, SJCP5, SCSNI, SCWCD1.4, SCBCD5, SCDJWS5, SCEA5-I, IBM ICSD, IBM ICAD, BEA BCDWS9
John Emory
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Passed.
Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Milton Ochoa:
Some one that takes this certification, have the results yet?

I'd still take the results on Prometric with a grain of salt until they appear in Sun's database, but it looks as if the results have been processed.


Theodore Jonathan Casser
SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Khp Virajith
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Hello Fellows,

I also passed the SCSNI -beta..

Rory Marquis
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I still haven't got mine... anyone in the UK?
Theodore Casser
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I received my confirmation by snail mail this afternoon that I did pass. (Baltimore, MD, USA.)
arvin ramon
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Folks... I have not gotten any notification either by snail mail or by email... But, I was able to login to my Sun Certification Manager account at the following web page (www.certmanager.net/sun/) and see that I had passed in the SCSNI certification...

This is something that you can do as well if you have a Sun Certmgr account.

Good Luck!!!

Rory Marquis
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I got mine today, and I passed
 
I agree. Here's the link: http://aspose.com/file-tools
 
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