how is HF design pattern book

[amit taneja]

Hi.. guys

can you please tell me with your experince how is "head first design pattern" book ?
is it like as simple like other HFJS and HFEJB ?

what rating you will give it from 1 to 10 (10 being highest)

and what other good books on oops.. and thier rating ..

Please give rating with respect to .. "easy to read/understand","how much in detail of particular topic"," how many topic coverage" etc..

pls reply

[Stan James]

All I know is the Sample Chapter online. I was delightfully suprised by it. Pretty neat.

[Ilja Preuss]

Take a look at our book reviews: http://www.javaranch.com/bunkhouse/Patterns.jsp

[amit taneja]

hi Ilja Preuss

the link u specified is not showing anything...

one more question....for reading j2ee desing pattern book like HF

is it cumpulsary to know EJBs.. ?

what if i have all knowledge of jsp/servlets ..will that work for studing design patterns ?

[Ilja Preuss]

Originally posted by amit taneja:
hi Ilja Preuss

the link u specified is not showing anything...

Have you tried some patience? On my system, using Internet Explorer, it needs some time to show up...

[amit taneja]

well .. atlast opened up..
but at the time of earlier post..it was not opening for atleast 2 mins..
it was roaming b/w javaranch and amazon url as seen in the status bar

anyway..

[Kishore Dandu]

I completed reading the book recently.

It for sure is engaging(you can not say this very often with in the context of reading technical books) and easy to read.

[Hari Vignesh Padmanaban]

Originally posted by amit taneja:
Hi.. guys


what rating you will give it from 1 to 10 (10 being highest)

For a begineers book on Desgign patterns,
I wil give it --> 10 (HONESTLY )

[Ronald Heukers]

Hi Amit,


First of all, I think the HF series is excellent, also this book.

Reading it however after HF Java and HF Servlets and JSP, I have to say that I find this book a little bit less. Especially when you are already familiar with patterns.

It explains very well the GOF design patterns but there is no room, even not 1 chapter for explaining J2EE design patterns which I would have found logical also.

regards,

Ronald

[Mike Minner]

hey amit -

I've read it a couple times, and now I'm participating in a design patterns group at work using this book as the text. I'll give the book a rating of 7. They do a good job of explaining the GOF patterns, but some of the examples seem really forced and use design patterns for the sake of using design patterns (but it is a design patterns book ya know ). Of course, following the HF philosphy, the examples are supposed to concern things that the audience is really interested in (ie Pizza, Coffee, Rubber Ducks :roll: ) . If you are new to patterns, this is the right book for you. If you are experienced with patterns, I'd stick with the GOF book.

one more question....for reading j2ee desing pattern book like HF

is it cumpulsary to know EJBs.. ?

what if i have all knowledge of jsp/servlets ..will that work for studing design patterns ?

You won't need to know any of that stuff for this book. Just Java.

My two cents. Hope it helps.
[ August 09, 2005: Message edited by: Mike Minner ]

[Jesus Angeles]

sounds like GOF is a must read book?

but is it really? cant i just read the hf design patterns?

hoping for your comments

[Ilja Preuss]

Originally posted by Jesus Angeles:
sounds like GOF is a must read book?

but is it really? cant i just read the hf design patterns?

As far as I know, HF "just" discuss a selection of the GoF design patterns. The GoF book, on the other hand, isn't the best book from a didactic point of view, in my opinion.

So I'd suggest to start with the HF book as a good introduction to the basics, if you like its style, and after that complement it with a more complement reference of the GoF patterns (not necessarily the original book).

And keep in mind that the GoF book just started the movement - meaning that there are a lot more useful patterns out there today.

[Jesus Angeles]

Originally posted by Ronald Heukers:
Hi Amit,


........but there is no room, even not 1 chapter for explaining J2EE design patterns which I would have found logical also.

regards,

Ronald

Hi Ronald, which is the best book you know, that relates j2ee and design patterns?
[ August 31, 2005: Message edited by: Jesus Angeles ]

[Jesus Angeles]

comments please...how do you compare hf design pattern with the 'GOF book', and the 'OOAD and Unified process by Larman'?

can i read the hf design patterns only, instead of the 2 also?

[Bert Bates]

Well I can share one of the main intentions of the book - I have to leave it to you folks on the forum to determine how well we accomplished our intentions.

The intention of HFDP was to give the reader a strong foundation in the OO concepts that are the basis of most patterns, and to give the reader a strong foundation in about a dozen of the most commonly used patterns. Our sense is that with this foundation almost all of the other patterns books you'll encounter will make a lot more sense. BTW, Core J2EE patterns is a really great book, as is GoF, but they're both a little tougher to understand.

hth,

Bert

[Vladas Razas]

HFDP is the best pattern book to start with!

Whenever I try to read J2EE Core Patterns I seriously consider paying a visit to occupational hypnotherapist. I just don't feel like it.

[Michael Ernest]

Moving this to the Bunkhouse Porch, where book discussions should go.