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Recent posts by srishal singh

I didn't say that I didn't understand why certain people won't want to "give up" this information. I just said that I can't see any benefit from this.

The interview process is a two way street. To try to save a few thousand dollars, that will lower your chance to get the person that you want (which may cost you much more than that, if you hire someone less competent), doesn't make much sense.

In other words, this argument is valid if you believe that all jobs are equal, and hence, you pick the highest paying one; and if you believe that all people are interchangeable, and hence, you pick the one that is willing to get paid the least.

Henry

There is a benefit to employer if the interviewee doesnt know the tactic he may be hired for less . Cost does matter

Your second point assumes that employee is in demand however it may not be always true(remember recent recession).
Last point is true. Unfortunately most managers /decision makers I came across believe the last assumption(ie people == commodity and are interchangeable).
14 years ago

Henry Wong wrote:
Haven't been to tons of interviews... but I can't imagine that I would be insulted, or feel that I need to hide such information. What is wrong with telling the truth?

If anything, this is dangerous on the interviewer's part. If it is seen as trying to make the lowest possible offer, it can insult the candidate (to either not accept, or leave for a better offer in a few months).

Henry



The interviewr is trying to gain information and he benefits both ways (if you answer honestly).
if you say you dont have any offer then he knows that he has no competetion and probably will low-ball the offer.
if you say I have offers he may ask further questions specific to the offers which is again unwanted situation bcos he is gaining information again on how much you are worth.
If he knows how much you are offered then obviously that is the maximum limit or upper range for his offer.
In a negotiation scenario giving too much info about you is not desirable.

I hope this makes it clear.
14 years ago
keep them guessing by saying
"No but I am expecting some of these very soon".
Note that you dont need to say a word more. if they try to probe more ask them to make an offer.
14 years ago
Hi Jyoti,
the salary offered is less. You have some experience(better than a complete fresher).
Do you know about cost of living in mumbai (assuming you are from outside)?
This company ( 40 people) operating in business since 96 . They should have grown big if it was a good company/business. It s probaly not good.
Sounds fishy to me.
How can you so sure that they will offer you challenging work? What kind of training they provide you that is worth this bond?
If you need it desperately ask them if they can hire you without bond without looking desperate for a job.

Let me know if this helps


14 years ago
I also have observed this interesting thing about work life balance. Our clients who are european often take leaves of 2,3 weeks (at least 3,4 times a year). However our (offshore) managers are very rigourous on leave process and stingy in granting leave

It depends on the culture and mentality of the people. Our IT may be advertized as employee friendly but inside they are no better than sweatshops.

@Himanshu
The first point applies to people working all over the world in service industry. So I guess there is not much correlation between service industry and this mentality. I guess this has to do with work culture.


15 years ago
When you go out in the job market , you offer some services and which normally would go to highest bidder (like in auction). Similar is the nature of business.
Can you (as a company) guarantee about your future business??
No is the answer.

So a candidate has a right to change his mind until he joins. No question of moral/ethical ground..

However it is professional behaviour/courtesy to inform it upfront (as soon as you make a decision.) to the related parties.
15 years ago
There is no question of morality or being ethical..If you are getting better offer ask directly to the other company for revision of offer.

As far as legal action is concerned, I dont think it is illegal. Please read the contract though.

Comparing this act with shoplifting is not fair really..

Mark are you a company owner/HR ? sarcasm here.

Will the company offering you job think twice before sacking you if you are not required??
[ June 04, 2008: Message edited by: srishal singh ]
15 years ago
This (article) is an excellent analysis..

Especially the economic effects of china (oil) consumption. No wonder oil price is reaching new heights every day. I think the world should look for and research on finding alternative fuels.

Also the declining population in europe means they will have to import the workers in future.
15 years ago
Do you ask/talk about salary in the first round
of interaction with consultant/hr person? I personally think it is good elimination criteria. Otherwise you may waste your time.

On the flip side It may give an impression that you are only jumping for money. I guess It s good idea to ask carefully worded questions.

Another thing I would like opinions on is the gaps in experience. The HR drones are sometimes very adamant. How best you can hide/present these??

I would like to know your thoughts.
16 years ago
Agree with Mark..
Switch when you have got strong reasons. You can possibly stay in a company for 5 years and stay incompetent.
16 years ago
I would suggest a road test for some of your enterprenuer skills.
Do you know how to sell your skills??
I suggest you find out a market first (if it exists) for the service you are planning to offer. It s very hard to sell IT in India...
It is hard but may not be impossible.

Try testing the confidence of your potential customers. Are there any?
You can safely try these first on weekends.
16 years ago

You dont' see IITians commenting around codes ..lol



I have actually seen IITians working on technical documentation in one of my earlier companies (among Big five). I am not saying they were the best of IITians.
Heard the news of IITians commiting suicide while studying??
I wonder if they are very sane people..
16 years ago

In services based companies,one only gets to build applications on top of intricate products such application servers,Messaging products,Integration Servers, ESBs and a host of other middleware solutions developed by product companies.



This is true but not every product developed by any code monkey is used by service companies. Only few products are worth it.

Service companies
You have to write and ship entire project from start to end from scratch in time and with good quality. This is end to end.. There is no escape.

Product
most of the times (in offshore scenario) the product is already built (90%) . Sometimes you work on 10% tasks like moving and aligning buttons/controls. You can claim that you have worked on all complex parts like Resource Optimization,Concurrency management,Interprocess communication and lowlevel distributed computing..

It is possible that you have been working only on commenting the code which is done by earlier architect..
Most often end developers end up being a cog in the giant wheel.
Also In most of products there are ready frameworks/approaches to deal with complex issues( at least in big successful companies). No need to reinvent the wheel. This is maintainance in reality..

I know there are some people who worked on world class products. So there are exceptions. You can only tell by experience.
16 years ago

This is what i dont agree with. If *most* of the product companies you have seen recently are like this then you have not seen enough!!!


please clarify...
I ve so far heard about only two world class indian products/companies Finnacle and another company is IFlex . Rest of all (maybe what you are talking ) may be targeting local indian market.
[ August 09, 2007: Message edited by: srishal singh ]
16 years ago

You mean to say that there are no companies in India that are making a new product? Boy .. and i thought i am making one!!!


where did I say the above?
Most of the product companies have a successfull running product (else they wouldnt start shop here!!). All they do is maintainance and enhancements.
If you are involved in the first product release then you get very challenging work. Otherwise the afterwards maintaince is not very challenging.I heard It is like sometimes rearranging the UI/fixing some data problem etc. So mostly this kind of work is done at offshore. Hence there are not much onsite chances in Product companies.
16 years ago