Jack Warble

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Bear, thanks for the input. I'm glad to hear that the new IE browsers are getting more inline with everyone else.

I've posted this on several web development forums to try to get as much input as possible and I'm surprised at how little response the post generated. More surprised that most of the responses were of a hostile nature. I just don't get it. Every web development message board contains posts for help in getting things to work on IE that work without problems on other browsers and how everyone despises IE, yet suggest an organized effort to try to make things better for us and you get hostility. It's just bizarre.

It just seems to me that an organized effort to inform the less tech-savvy general public on the benefits of not using non-compliant browsers would be a good thing. I sort of envisioned a single notification that participating websites would display upon detection of a non-compliant browser (mostly older versions of IE I imagine) informing the user of the situation, explaining the benefits to everyone by upgrading, and providing detailed instructions for the options available and how to install a new browser if they choose. I'm not suggesting insulting users or denying them access to a site because of the browser they are using. I would imagine that users would buy into or be less suspicious of the recommendation if a lot of websites displayed the exact same message, branded with a single organizations icon. It just seems like a simple solution to what's been a big problem for some time.

So you say that companies you do work for aren't supporting versions of IE before 8. Do they notify users of older browsers of this or do those users just see screwed up or non-functioning features?

Screw it. I'm still going to put something together. It won't take much effort and it could prove to be beneficial. If no one buys in, oh well, not much invested. That's the great thing about the web. You can implement any crazy idea you want and costs you almost nothing, unless you try to get it to work on all those non-compliant browsers.

I've been developing software for over 25 years and have been doing web development for the past 10. I'm an entrepreneur with several web services, some commercial, some not. While putting together a new service this week, non-commerical, I reached my breaking point with Internet Explorer and made a conscious decision to just not support it with this latest site. It just sucks up too much of my time. So now when users log into my site using IE they will see the following message: http://i.imgur.com/WuZnI.png

I'm not forcing my users to use another browser to view my site, simply informing them that IE isn't specifically supported and then I encourage them to try another browser, explaining the benefits.

I'd like to try to turn this into a movement. I've already registered a domain name to support it. I understand that commercial sites' survival probably depend on supporting IE, but there are a lot of sites out there that aren't commercial that could help.

Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of web developers out there feel the same way as I do?

Am I naive in thinking that web developers could actually make a difference by educating the web browsing public?

What do you think?

Thanks for your time.