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I guess you never had to work with someone else's code! I have had programs with bugs in them that were written by some guy that left six months ago. The visual debugger allows me to step through the code to see what exactly the code is doing. I can examine the contents of variables without having to stop and put in more print statements. I have found it useful just for examining program flow on programs that are confusing. Maybe you never work with other people's code or maybe you only work with well written programs that are clearly documented so this might not make sense to you.Originally posted by Frank Carver:
Do you really have to deal with enough complex run-time bugs to justify using a debugger? I'm not trying to be facetious here, I have honestly never felt the need to use a debugger for Java.
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Originally posted by Frank Carver:
For those of you who have recommended Gel, can you explain a bit more about why/what you like about it?
I just installed it and was disappointed by the way it filled the screen with wierd, large empty "browser" windows, leaving only a tiny area in the middle for editing. It didn't appear to be a particularly "lite" IDE.
I have now uninstalled it after finding that it uses absolute file names in its "project" files. This is a real problem for me as I routinely work on projects stored on removable media (which appear as different drive letters on different machines) and access my projects over a network (which may be mounted on different drive letters).
Gel didn't even allow me to change the location for a file, but instead asked me if I wanted to remove it from the project every time I tried to do anything.
So far I have found that TextPad and Eclipse can use sensible (relative to the project file itself) file names in their project files - does anyone know of any other editors or IDEs which do this too?
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Originally posted by Frank Carver:
Maybe there's a difference in the type of applications we work on. I tend to work on web/servlet/JSP/database middleware stuff, often with a lot of connections to (and depdendencies on) other machines. Perhaps my approach is more suitable to this kind of work?
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Originally posted by Ajith Kallambella:
Thank you all for your feedback. I'm not sure if I made it clear in my original question - we already have a full-scale IDE however, we also need a "lite" version that is preferably Java aware.
Many of these developers are people who travel and hence use laptops 90% of their time for development purposes. We are considering standardizing all tools/products for the development box and hence the search for a low-cal IDE.
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