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Jessica Lang
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know what is the most popular or common use Java IDE in the current market at the moment? I heard of Websphere and Eclipse...are they widely use in companies or is there any others?


Thanks in advance..!
Paul Sturrock
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Websphere is an application server...


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Greg T Robertson
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When you say WebSphere as an IDE you are probably referring to WebSphere Studio Application Developer (WSAD) which is IBM's offering that is built on top of the Eclipse platform.

Another IDE would be netbeans from Sun (www.netbeans.org).

There are plenty of others as well.
Joe Ess
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A browse around the IDE Forum may give you a sense of what the most popular IDEs are.


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Jeroen Wenting
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which is: everyone has his/her/its favourite, there is no clear winner or looser, everyone is happy and has marketshare.


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Jessica Lang
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Hi all,
<When you say WebSphere as an IDE you are probably referring to WebSphere Studio Application Developer (WSAD)...>
Yeah, when I said Websphere, it was referring to WSAD.

<which is: everyone has his/her/its favourite, there is no clear winner or looser, everyone is happy and has marketshare.>
This is very true....but I am thinking who has the *biggest* marketshare at the moment....any idea?

Thanks all..!
Dipen Javia
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IDEA? but thats probably used by big companies for very very advanced stuff. But IDEA is the ideal IDE. They have 30-day evalution copy for download.

For more inforamtion on IDEA, http://www.jetbrains.com/idea


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Jeroen Wenting
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marketshare is impossible to determine reliably.

Companies don't typically give out sales figures except sometimes very broad numbers without explanation of how they were arrived at ("now over 2 million sold", 2 million what? This version only or from the very first 20 years ago. Do you count upgrades as sales in that and if so as partial or full?).
Freeware products typically might mention number of downloads, but many people download more than once and then there's people that download but never use.
There's also people installing one download on multiple machines.
For commercial products, do you count pirated versions with that market share? In parts of the world pirated software accounts for over 90% of all software in use, even in the US and Europe an estimated 30-50%+ of software used by companies is pirated and 50-75% of software used by individuals (not counting games, for those the numbers are closer to 95% for some genres).

You might do a poll here and get some results, but those may well be atypical. The number of respondents as well as their demographics make for an unreliable benchmark.
Dirk Schreckmann
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Moving this to the IDEs and Other Tools forum...


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Joe McIntyre
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Well I've just started with eclipse (2 days ago), and already I LOVE it! But from what I can determine so far, it seems the problem would be that it doesn't yet have the advanced features of other IDEs. For example, debugging web apps and things like that. However, I really like their philosophy - i.e. providing a development platform that accomodates plugins rather than trying to lock you in to a product suite that's expensive, and after you get locked in, if the product suite doesn't have what you want you're out of luck.
Tim West
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You can debug web apps in Eclipse. Use remote debugging: start the app with options -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8000 or similar, and then create a new remote debugging setup (Run->Debug...->Remote Java Application).

In my experience you can do almost anything in Eclipse if you spend time getting the plugins and all set up. IMHO what it really lacks is polish and continuity - something IDEA has in spades.



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