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Eclipse vs WSAD

Nikhil Vasaikar
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Hi,

I request someone to provide information on a comparison between Eclipse and WSAD. I will appreciate links to such info.

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Nikhil
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Well eventually WSAD will be built on top of the Eclipse framework, and change its name.

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WSAD = Eclipse + 100s Plugins


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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
Well eventually WSAD will be built on top of the Eclipse framework, and change its name.

WSAD has been built on top of Eclipse since day one. In fact, all of IBM's WebSPhere Studio Software IDEs are built on top of Eclipse (e.g., WSAD, WSSD, WSED, WSDD, etc.). Rational XDE is also built on top of Eclipse.


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Nikhil Vasaikar
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Hi,

Thanks for the Info. i actually want to know what makes WSAD different from Eclipse. In other words, if I have to choose between the two, which one should i go for and why?

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Nikhil
David Heffelfinger
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My experience with Websphere is limited, but I believe Websphere comes
with WSAD (which, as was stated before, is nothing but Eclipse plus
a number of plugins).

If you plan to deploy your application on Websphere, then I would
advise you to use WSAD, otherwise, Eclipse plus the Web Tools plugins
(http://eclipse.org/webtools) would be a good alternative.

David
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Sanjaya Sugiarto
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Originally posted by Nikhil Vasaikar:
Hi,

Thanks for the Info. i actually want to know what makes WSAD different from Eclipse. In other words, if I have to choose between the two, which one should i go for and why?

Regards,

Nikhil


It depends. WSAD costs you thousands of $$$. Eclipse is free. What will you do actually? Just small programming? Than just use Eclipse.
Doing heavy-weight J2EE projects? Than use WSAD. Eclipse J2EE plugins like Lomboz, in my opinion, is too buggy and slow as hell.

I myself prefer IntelliJ much more than WSAD. It doesnt to pricey compared to WSAD. It supports J2EE development too. 500 US$ is very reasonable price compared to 3000 US$ of WSAD. IntelliJ is also really intelligent editor, IMHO )
Masoud Kalali
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Hi
As other friends said it depends on your project ,
you can choose Eclipse for doing all kind of programming in J2SE
not j2ee stuff.
if you want make some J2ee based application with EJBs , Struts , JMS , ..
integration then WSAD is one of the Best choice as a J2ee IDE .
WSAD has :
1-exellent support for j2ee 1.3 spec + Websphere extension.
2-Good support for Struts + JSP programming (it has page flow + visual html + jsp WYIWYG)
3-good Swing designer (its provided in eclipse named VE).
4-exellent support for Webservice developing based on most known FrameWorks +Standards
5-exellent support for XML + XSD + DTD .....edition application.
6-it has very nice database Designer inside it (when you use Db2you got its full power).
and many other features.
Im happy with WSAD in developing j2ee solutions.
-im not working for IBM -


hope it helps.


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Axel Janssen
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... there is also JSF support in wsad5.12 and a debug like test environment for Websphere and Tomcat. You see a lot what is happening in your app, but its slows you down.
WSAD 5.12 (newest version) runs on top of older Eclipse verion (2.x).
MyEclipse offers a good and cheap (30 $ a year or so) bundle of plug-ins for open Source J2EE development as an alternative.
Consider that with spring, hibernte, ibatis and all this stuff open source Java was very quick to implement good ideas.

[ October 08, 2004: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
[ October 08, 2004: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
Nikhil Vasaikar
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Hi,

Thats quite a lot of info. I am glad to read through. I want to find out all the plugins required by Eclipse to make it equivalent to WSAD. Secondly, we would also require to support numerous App Servers and DBs. So, is there a URL where I can find the list of plugins which would make Eclipse have all the features in WSAD. Well, we are looking at it from the cost perspective. Once I find all such plugins, I will try them along with Eclispe, on a 512 Megs RAM machine with Windows XP Prof OS.

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Nikhil
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Nikhil,
I think you are better off coming up with a list of features you need from WSAD and looking for plugins for just those. For example, WSAD comes with web services support. If you aren't doing web services, you don't need a plugin for that.


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Nikhil Vasaikar
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Hi Jeanne,

I agree with you. I have also found a WSAD feature list at the IBM Site. Infact now I can choose the eclipse plugins for the features I require.

Regards,

Nikhil
 
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