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matthew austin

Joined: Feb 28, 2001
Posts: 18
I've been finding the Java How To Program book to be very helpful as a non-CS major delving into serious progamming. Do you guys have any opinions about the book?
Andy Ceponis
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Joined: Dec 20, 2000
Posts: 782
I bought it as a helper to my Java classes. I find its full of info and its got tons of examples. But i find it a bit to dry for my tastes. It gives example after example about every little variation where lots of times ive found i understood the concept better from a different book(usually with a shorter and more to the point example).
I do read a bit of it everyday, but i also use other books to help me out as well. I like Ivor Horton's "Beginning Java 1.3" a bit better. And Just Java 1.2 is a very good book. Its not nearly as complete as the other two, but sometimes discussing a subject without getting knee deep the first time around helps(me at least) to let the point sink in without getting confused.
Marilyn de Queiroz

Joined: Jul 22, 2000
Posts: 9059
I think it's a good reference book, but hard to sit down and read straight through.

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Steve Fahlbusch

Joined: Sep 18, 2000
Posts: 601

I like the book (I assigned this book for my classes) in the
areas I was teaching (ie: about half were never going to
programming again, half would go on some advanced CSish degree).
But the main focus of the class was not java. If I were to
teach a beginning java I would use Just Java.
The D-D was great in that there were a lot of exercises and I
could always get someone excited about one of them. But it's
not the kind of book you would read on a cold winter's
evening in front of a roaring fire (well in less you wanted to
matthew austin

Joined: Feb 28, 2001
Posts: 18
Thanks for all of your feedback!
Thomas Paul
mister krabs
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Joined: May 05, 2000
Posts: 13974
I do teach an introductory Java class at Hofstra University and I use:
"Thinking in Java" by Bruce Eckel
"Java 2" by Ivor Horton

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Rochelle Hoffman

Joined: Jan 07, 2001
Posts: 13
I have looked at the D&D Java book, but haven't ever purchased it.
I think owning any *one* of the Deitels' books is great, since I think that they are able to explain complicated information in an easy-to-understand manner. I own 2 of their books presently,
C- How to Program, and C++ - How to Program. These were required books for a couple of my courses.
My only gripe with their books arises from the fact that the C++ book is largely a regurgitation of the C book, esp. in the earlier chapters. Many of the exercises also are duplicated between the books. I felt a little bit cheated after I bought the C++ book since it was so similar to the C book (with the exception of some of the more specific OOP details.)
So if you don't have any of the other D&D books, the Java edition would probably be a pretty good purchase. Otherwise, I like Just Java (as mentioned previously) and also the 2-volume Core Java set.
Marilyn de Queiroz

Joined: Jul 22, 2000
Posts: 9059
The second edition of Java How to Program (D&D) was a lot like their C++ book. The third edition has lots of new stuff in it though and is much more specific to Java.

[This message has been edited by Marilyn deQueiroz (edited April 14, 2001).]
Val Dra
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Joined: Jan 26, 2001
Posts: 439
They are pretty much all the same. I own their C++ how to program book and Java how to program book. The only good thing about the books are the problems at the end of the chapters.

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