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Eclipse vs WSAD5.1/RAD

Ranjit Gopinath
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Eclipse vs WSAD5.1/RAD
Hi..

Can anyone please explain the advantage RAD is having over Eclipse 3.2 ??and a comparsion of Eclispe vs WSAD 5.1 ??.Which one is better and why??

Thanks in advance.
Ranjit
Masoud Kalali
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First let see what are RAD and WSAd :
RAD is successor of WSAD , indeed from version 6 WSAD name changed to RAD (websphere application developer , RAtional application developer)
both these IDEs are IBM commerical IDEs they have so many other plugins over standard eclipse distrobution , plugins like XSLT handling , WSDL designing , WYSIWYG for web pages (html, jsp,jsf) and many other features.
you should pay to use WSAD or RAD

but RAD 6.x with Eclipse 3.2 , AFAIR RAD 6 is based on eclipse 3.0.1 so it has none of Eclipse core feature that are introduced in eclipse 3.2 , instead it has more tooling stuff for developing enterprise applications.

WSAD is based on eclipse 2.1 (IIRC) so it has none of features that are introduce in eclipse core +2.1 , but it has features like , EJB diagraming + code generation , code generator for web service , visual struts / jsp designer....

all i said are based on my experiences with WSAD 5.x and RAD 6 (eclipse 2-3.0.x) , i do not test any newer version of them , also i do not test Eclipse 3.2 to see what new features it has.


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Ranjit Gopinath
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Thank you for your valuable comment, Masoud Kalali.

Based on your experience which IDE is good for Application development with Struts framework.?? Eclipse or RAD ??
From googling around I found RAD is high on resource usage.Any inputs on that??.
Can you provide any link where i can find a comparison between ,( a advantage / disadvantage comparison like) Eclipse and RAD / WSAD..

Thanks in advance.

Ranjit
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Ranjit,
I use Eclipse at home and RAD (formerly WSAD) at work. Both are high on memory usage, but RAD is worse. Either can be used for Struts development. For Eclipse, you may want to consider using a Struts plugin.

Note that RAD comes with a server. So you need to compare it to Eclipse + a server. If you are deploying to WebSphere, there are clear advantages to using RAD as you can test on the real server. If you are deploying to Tomcat or JBoss, Eclipse is fine with the server specific plugins.


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Thank you jeanne.

Hope to have a great learning experience here at Java Ranch.

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Ranjit Gopinath
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What all are the significant differences that RAD is having over Eclipse??
From Masoud's reply i got to know on which eclipse version each of the RAD and WSAD is based . Is there any major changes RAD is having over WSAD 5.1??

What you feel is the advantage / disadvantage Eclipse 3.2 is having over RAD or viceversa.I came to know from somewhere that after installation of RAD around 2 GB of updates was required to be downloaded, is that true?

Please consider these questions as from a newbie to Eclipse 3.2 and total stranger to WSAD/RAD working environments.

thanks and regards

- Ranjit
Masoud Kalali
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Originally posted by Ranjit Gopinath:
What all are the significant differences that RAD is having over Eclipse??
From Masoud's reply i got to know on which eclipse version each of the RAD and WSAD is based . Is there any major changes RAD is having over WSAD 5.1??

What you feel is the advantage / disadvantage Eclipse 3.2 is having over RAD or viceversa.I came to know from somewhere that after installation of RAD around 2 GB of updates was required to be downloaded, is that true?

Please consider these questions as from a newbie to Eclipse 3.2 and total stranger to WSAD/RAD working environments.

thanks and regards

- Ranjit


It is correct , at least when i was working with RAD , our Last update was a huge package 1.2 (IIRC).
WSAD is J2ee 1.3 compliant (its code generators ,server integration , jsp/servlet version....) so you can not develop/deploy your j2ee 1.4 with it. Also it has lesser support for Web services + it has no JSF support (IIRC) .
RAD 6.0.x , support J2ee 1.4 development , its portal package support jsr168 , it has many new tooling feature in databse/ejb/web service development,it has WYSIWYG for jsf .

if you are in a condition to select an Eclipse based IDE to develop an Struts based application which has no EJB stuff you may go with Rational Web developer. it is a reduced version of RAD for web application development, so reduced confusion for you.

but you should consider that RAD is based on eclipse 3.0.x and WSAD is based on Eclipse 2.x so you are in a huge advantages when you use RAD in term of core features (for example code editor features like code folding)

in case that you are free to choose an IDE then take a look at new jdeveloper 10.1.3.1 preview edition which is a honorable IDE.
Anant Kamat
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Hello Everyone,

I just went through the post, but it looks that the discussion here is regarding older versions of Eclipse/RAD.
Please let me know about the difference between Eclipse 3.4 and RAD 7.5.
Since I am new to this, I would like to know the advantages of each of the IDE's.
Also since RAD comes bundled with WAS, which versions of WAS are compatible with RAD 7.5.

Thanks,
Anant


Thanks,
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