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Matt DeLacey
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Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Posts: 318
I love the way JavaRanch does the book giveaway. I think it's a great way to pull people in, and encourage people who always migrate to the same forums to visit others and participate. I propose that instead of giving 4 books away (or whatever number) to people who simply post, you give say 3 books and then hold 1 book back. Then, every month or so, you have the sheriffs and other big dudes get together and possibly nominate people in their forum who have given considerable help to others in the respective forums. You vote or draw a name from a hat or randomly choose one of those people and give THEM a book. I don't propse this in the hopes that I might get one of these books, I just think some forums suffer from not having more "experts" around, and it would encourage people with signicifant knowledge to contribute even more. Don't get me wrong, there are MANY people around who help out all the time. But, it seems reasonable to me to reward these people and it seems like it would be an incentive for these people to help even more. Just a thought.
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Mapraputa Is
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 10065
I like this idea!

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Cindy Glass
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Joined: Sep 29, 2000
Posts: 8521
The concept is good, ironing out the process to make it fair would be the hardest part. People get hurt feelings very easily. Another option might be a JavaRanch shirt instead.

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Johannes de Jong

Joined: Jan 27, 2001
Posts: 5089
I agree with Cindy. I also feel that the book price as it stands at the moment excourages non-regulars to get involved with JavaRanch. A very good overall Java expert I know, has started going to this site because I told him of the book I won. He wont get addicted to the Range like I do, but the few messages that he might post to try and win a book will have much more value than what I post here.

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Angela Poynton
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Joined: Mar 02, 2000
Posts: 3143
One thing to note ... thoe who make themselves noticed by being extremely helpful are also regularly nominated for the Bartender position.

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Mapraputa Is
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 10065
If we accepted Matt�s idea it would be great compliment to our game, IMHO. Our current rules help to attract any kind of visitors, and they specially benefit to novices, since you do not have to be an expert to win, all you need to do is to post as many messages (questions) as you can. Of course, that�s nice. But if we could give one book out of four to people who gave the best answers, it could help us to attract experts, by giving them more control over results. Suppose that I am an expert (of course, I am not, but it feels so good to pretend ) and I really want to win this particular book. If I knew that I will get it by posting a lot of useful answers � I suppose I would be more willing to participate.
Right know we encourage people to post lots of ... let�s say not so profound messages. Not to say it is a bad practice, but if we could also encourage people to post great messages... It doesn�t look like too bad idea to me.
As for other ways to encourage people, by giving them T-shirts or by nomination for the Bartender position � they all will work, of course, for more general process of encouragement. Matt�s proposal IMHO is great in improving specifically our book giveway procedure. Returning to more general process, right now nomination is the only way to encourage people, but it is not an ideal way. We cannot nominate ALL qualified people since bartender pool is hmmm... limited, and not all of them may agree to become bartender.
ryan burgdorfer
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Joined: Jan 24, 2001
Posts: 219
I think this is a great suggestion as well, Map. It will, theoretically, increase the number of expert answers in a given forum. Just like in the case of Johannes' friend, who heard of the book giveaways, and began posting as a result.
There are very few drawbacks to this, if any. And the benefit of increasing the number of quality answers far outweighs what few negative aspects there are to this idea.
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