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Jeff Langr
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Greetings Mike,

Thanks for the answer about what was in (and not in) the book.

I note that the Pragmatic books, including Pragmatic Project Automation, are now available for sale at Amazon, something other people here might be interested in knowing.

My understanding is that previously we would have had to purchase the books directly from your publisher (The Pragmatic Programmers, I presume). How'd that come about, and how would you describe your experience in getting that relationship set up? And would you prefer that potential buyers get it directly from the Pragmatic Programmers site or from Amazon? (or does it matter)

thanks,
Jeff


Books: Agile Java, Modern C++ Programming with TDD, Essential Java Style, Agile in a Flash. Contributor, Clean Code.
Dave Thomas
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All the Pragmatic Bookshelf books are available from our site, as well as being available in bookstores and from online sellers such as Amazon. This wider distribution started a few months agao when we signed up O'Reilly as our world-wide distributor.

You asked where folks should buy. Feel free to buy whereever you want. One small factor might be that the authors (and the publisher receive more of your payment if you buy direct--it cuts out a number of middlemen. See our online store

I'll let Mike answer the stuff about relationships


Dave Thomas <br />Author of "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/020161622X/ref=ase_electricporkchop/002-7467239-7061602" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master</a>
Mike Clark
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Hi Jeff,

You asked about getting the relationship set up, so I'll take that as a license to gush. :-)

Working with my publishers, Dave and Andy, has been a wonderful experience for me. They not only know how to write great books (and edit, and typeset, and market), but they're also expert programmers. Being able to bounce technical ideas and code off of them was invaluable for me. It's really the kind of support every technical author dreams of, I think.

Moreover, I found the entire process to be refreshing in that it was agile. Everything was streamlined toward getting a book into readers' hands as soon as possible. But at the same time they offered me a blank canvas on which to create ideas, so I never felt constrained by a process. And I got a lot of timely and valuable feedback along the way.

In addition to all the personal support, the toolset support they built was a dream for a programmer like me. Indeed, it was a critical component in getting the book to print quickly because it stayed out of my way and eliminated rework. I've written about the tool chain several times in my blog:

http://www.clarkware.com/cgi/blosxom/2004/06/25#WYSIWYG
http://www.clarkware.com/cgi/blosxom/2004/07/14#BeyondTheBook

I can't overstate just how enjoyable Dave and Andy have been to work with. Suffice it to say, if I had the time and brainpower to write another book, I'd start writing another book for the Pragmatic Bookshelf tomorrow.

Mike


Mike Clark<br />Author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974514039/ref=jranch-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pragmatic Project Automation</a>
Jeff Langr
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Originally posted by Dave Thomas:
You asked where folks should buy. Feel free to buy whereever you want. One small factor might be that the authors (and the publisher receive more of your payment if you buy direct--it cuts out a number of middlemen. See our online store


Thanks for the info Mike & Dave! I kind of figured you might make a bit more by selling direct.

-Jeff-
 
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