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Robert MacEwan
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Joined: Apr 05, 2003
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Installed a copy of SuSE 9 Professional this morning. Point and click install of Java Webstart, Eclipse, java browser plugin, JavaSDK. Everything worked like a charm, absolutely no problems. Grabbed a copy of DrJava and continued with my Java lessons.
By the way, if you're thinking of trying Linux then consider SuSE. I've been using Linux since '98 and this was with out a doubt the easiest, most complete OS I've installed.


Robert MacEwan
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I can second that...Installed Suse 9.0 prof. and was playing with it over the weekend. It's got a whole bunch of nice utilities...for one thing, didn't expect it to detect my peripherals (scanner,scsi zip, dig. cam, web cam...) so easily. Very nice.
Gregg Bolinger
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Suse isn't free though is it?


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Andres Gonzalez
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thanks for the comments Robert


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Barry Gaunt
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
Suse isn't free though is it?


I think you can load it down from their website if you want.
However, for the price (+special pricing for students or updates+) it is very good value. Especially if you save $$$ of your own time because things work out of the box. Half or more of the price just covers the cost of the thick books of documentation (full price version).
Yes, I'm biased, I've used SuSE since they arrived on the scene in the early 1990's.


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Grub de Bliek
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Joined: Sep 09, 2003
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But isn't it right that Red Hat Linux is the officially supported Linux platform?
From http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/download-dr.html:
The following table lists the required version of J2SE for each operating system that is supported with this release of J2EE:
SolarisTM SPARC 8, 9
Windows 2000 Professional SP3+
Windows XP Professional SP1+
Windows 2000 Server SP3+
Windows Server 2003
Linux Redhat, v8.0
I have a couple of questions about this. I installed an old version of Red Hat, 7.3. I'm totally no Linux expert, so the question is quite easy:
How can I upgrade to the latest Red Hat release?
Do I have to buy a new release, or can I download it somewhere. Is it enough to install a new kernel, or doesn't that upgrade the whole release?
I've been looking for some time now, but the answers on the simplest questions are always hard to find.
And can I also run all Java 2 Enterprise Platform applications like JBoss and Bea Weblogic on other Linux release like Suse?


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Gregg Bolinger
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Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:


I think you can load it down from their website if you want.

Not for free I don't think. Prove me wrong?
Greg Karpov
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Joined: Feb 16, 2002
Posts: 24
You can do an ftp-install for free.Although it takes a lot of time and requires fast broadband connection.
Gregg Bolinger
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Originally posted by Greg Karpov:
You can do an ftp-install for free.Although it takes a lot of time and requires fast broadband connection.

Link?
Greg Karpov
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Joined: Feb 16, 2002
Posts: 24
Sure, here it is: http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/suse_linux/index.html
But I'd like to say that I tried it on several computers with different hardware, including 2 processor/2 Gb ram and was extremely disappointed with it's performance - actually we wanted to buy their Enterprise Standard Server, but now I guess we'll go for RedHat RHEL 3 ES.
Actually this is very strange - I've used SuSE 7.3 and 8.0 - both were excellent distros
James White
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Joined: Apr 22, 2003
Posts: 23

Red Hat 9.0 and Mandrake 9.2 are also nice options for Linux newbies and they are free (or close to it). You can either go directly to the site and download or buy the CDs for a small amount (usually less than $10 after shipping and handling). Red Hat 9.0 was the first distro I had success installing. Mandrake 9.2 has more options and a better interface IMHO, but it took me three shots to get the download right (I'm pretty new to Linux myself). SuSe 9.0 is also a nice option you get the personal version for about $35.00 or download it from the site. If you've never installed A Linux system before, I'd suggest getting a book. The books tend to come with CDs. Beyond that, try find a Linux distributor (distro) that suites your taste (e.g. Rad Hat, Suse are good newbie distros, Slackware is for the hardcore command line jockey, etc.). Hope that helps.
 
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