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Downloading Solaris OS

Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Hi guys. My name is Jeffry, I want to download Sun Solaris 10. Does the OS works in laptop? My laptop processor is

intel Pentium 1.73 Ghz, 533 Mhz FSB, 2mb L2 cache (Acer TravelMate 4060)

which downloading choice if I want to install in my laptop?


thanks


Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
Joe Ess
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The Solaris Hardware Compatibility List has a tool that can tell you if your hardware is up to the task.
I run web sites that are hosted on Solaris servers and I've been using VMware Player to run the Solaris 10 VM under Windows XP. I don't have to worry about hardware compatibility and if I screw up my Solaris install, I can just download the VM again. All of my important stuff is in Windows and not touched. It's a good option if you are just learning.


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Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Hi Joe, I'll learn Solaris to pursue the SCSA certification and of course to enhance my skill. In fact , I'll dedicate my old laptop just for Solaris OS and buy a new one for Windows Vista. Thanks for replying.

By the way, does the solaris OS is better than the Windows Server in the terms of performance and security?
Joe Ess
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Well, if your old laptop's hardware isn't supported by Solaris, you have an option.
I haven't worked much with Windows Server. What I have noticed on the Windows machines I've worked on is that it is easy for one process to dominate the CPU. Solaris seems absolutely stingy by comparison. This may mean that Solaris will scale better since there's less chance that one user or process will freeze out the others.
That said, my company runs dozens of Windows Servers (though I have nothing to do with them) and I haven't heard of any major problems with them.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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I already check my laptop using Sun Detection Tool. The target Solaris OS is Solaris 10 5/08. the result is like this:

All the device type such as network (LAN), storage, multimedia, USB, video, all marked with green circle (Solaris Budled Driver)

the device type for network(wireless) marked with yellow green circle (Open Solaris Driver)

There are no devices marked with red circle (No Solaris Driver).


Does it mean my laptop is fully compatible with Solaris 10 5/08? Currently I'm downloading the Solaris 10 5/08.
Joe Ess
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Originally posted by Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar:
Does it mean my laptop is fully compatible with Solaris 10 5/08? Currently I'm downloading the Solaris 10 5/08.


It sounds promising. I don't know because, as I've mentioned earlier, I've only set up Solaris myself in a VM and I'm really more of a programmer than system administrator. Good luck and keep us posted.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Ok, but I'll wait until I buy a new laptop. As soon as I get my new one, I'll tell you whether my old laptop is fit for Solaris OS or not.


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Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Before I forget, does the Solaris 10 5/08 is completely free without expire date ? what's the different between Solaris 10 5/08 and Open Solaris ?




Sorry for asking too many questions.
Joe Ess
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As far as I know (I just browsed the license), Solaris 10 is free for non-commercial use and is supported for 10 years.
As for the difference between Solaris and Open Solaris, Wikipedia makes it sound like Solaris is the OS and Open Solaris is the developer community. It's probably like how the Fedora project feeds Red Hat's Enterprise Linux. Hopefully someone who knows will chime in.
Don't worry about asking too many questions. You sound like you are willing to show some effort and that's all we ask.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Ok, thanks. we live only once in a lifetime. It will be best if we spend our lifetime to learn and do the positive things.


Thanks

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Jaffer Sadiq
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Hi friends,

With same configuration I have installed Solaris 10... Even in top of Windows....

Thanks,
Jaffer
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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I'm still waiting for downloading open solaris to finish because the last time I was downloading, the power went down so I have to repeat the download again.

While I'm waiting, I want to know whether there are antiviruses for Solaris and Linux whether there are free or commercial.
Joe Ess
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*nix operating systems are less vulnerable to viruses for a number of reasons.
Rather passively running an application to protect you, you need to take the initiative. Turn off services you don't need. Always check the MD5 checksum for applications before you install them. Only use the "root" account when you absolutely need to.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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The one common way to infected with virus is through the infected USB flash disk. How can I prevent that without antivirus?
Joe Ess
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Windows executes programs when a disk is inserted. This "Autorun" feature is a Bad Thing, and can be easily exploited. This vulnerability is complicated because many Windows users log in as Administrator, giving malicious programs full reign.
*nix OS's either don't automatically mount volumes, or give you a choice upon mounting as to what to do. Basic security practice tells us not to use the "root" account unless absolutely necessary, so even if our system is exploited, the damage is limited (that goes for Windows too).
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Does virus designed for windows can still running in Linux or Solaris?
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No, you will not be bothered by Windows viruses if you are running a non-Windows operating system.


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Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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No, you will not be bothered by Windows viruses if you are running a non-Windows operating system


Why? Is that because Windows and (Linux or Solaris) used different programming language?
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Originally posted by Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar:
Why? Is that because Windows and (Linux or Solaris) used different programming language?

It's because they are different operating systems meaning a different native machine language. This means they can't run the same programs. Since a virus is a program, it can't cross disparate operating systems.


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Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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THANKS, now the downloas is finished, I'll try the opensolaris
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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I already burn into CD but It couldn't run the OS. what happened?

Here what I did:
I extract the RAR file. the extract result is copied into CD. (I use CDRW)
I set the boot to boot from CD-ROM.
When my computer restart, it still run the windows OS.

Is there anything I missed?
Joe Ess
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Where did you get a RAR file from? The download from here appears to be an ISO.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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yes, from the link you provided. When I finished the download, should I extract first or just copy the RAR file to the CD?
Joe Ess
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The download from that file is not an RAR archive. It's a disk image ISO. You don't extract it. You use a program like DeepBurner to burn the disk image directly to the CD. If you extract the files first and copy them to CD, the CD will not be bootable (as you've found out).
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Ok, I'll try. Since I have WinRAR, it changed the iso icon into RAR file so I misunderstood as a RAR file.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Hey, it works. Thanks, now I'm downloading Solaris 10 for DVD. Does Fedora has live CD OS like Open Solaris?

In the future, I'll study Solaris 10 or Fedora or maybe both of them.
Joe Ess
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Originally posted by Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar:
Hey, it works.



Originally posted by Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar:
Does Fedora has live CD OS like Open Solaris?

Yes. Go here and look under the heading "Fedora Desktop Live Media".
Nikos Pougounias
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Hey Kristianto, you may find some quick-start information here: OpenSolaris by Sun.

Dari mana mas?
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Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Dari mana mas? [thumb]


Dari Jakarta mas.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Originally posted by Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar:
Dari Jakarta mas.

What does this mean? I'd run it through Babelfish, except I don't know what language it is in.

Note that since this is an English language forum, we ask people to post English equivalents to things in other languages. Although in this case, I'm more curious as it is pretty obvious that it isn't a critical point to discuss the topic.

If I had to guess, I would say "mas" is more. So my guess to the meaning would be "thank you very much" ? Even if that's right, I'm still curious what language it is.
Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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Dari Jakarta mas.


It means "I'm from Jakarta". I'm sorry. I was to carried on since I was glad to meet Indonesian member. Next time I'll use English.
 
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