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XML vs. FORTE

Ravindra
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 08, 2000
Posts: 20
Hi friends,
I'm first time visitor for this site.
I want some immediate help from all persons involved in XML or
FORTE related work.
I got two job offers from two companies. one is working in FORTE
and other is on XML. now I can't decide which one to choose bcoz
I dont know anything about XML or FORTE.
I'm a SUN CERTIFIED JAVA PROGRAMMER with 92% score. basically I
am a computer engineer having completed my BE just 2 months back.
as I am a SCJP, I wan to work in Java, but I've heard from many working persons that no company will give me work directly on Java (bcoz I am a fresher )
so what should I do now ?
please help me.
Thanks,
Ravindra
Ray Marsh
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Joined: Jan 12, 2000
Posts: 458
XML sounds interesting. I have an interest in it myself.
Forte... I thought that was an IDE for Java development.
If I'm correct and you're interested in Java, that may be a good choice.


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ShivaPrasad Devaki
Greenhorn

Joined: Sep 21, 2000
Posts: 6
I also would give my vote to XML. It is a good start for you. I wonder how can any company restrict a programmer to only one technology. I am sure that they will ask you to work in all flavours of Java related technologies.
Forte is also good to explore, but does not have much followers as Java has.
All the best....
Ray Marsh
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Joined: Jan 12, 2000
Posts: 458
Forte is like "Visual Age for Java", is like "Visual Cafe" etc. It is a Java IDE (Integrated Development Environment) that Sun Micro Systems created. All of the above are used to develop in Java. They are not languages or protocols. XML is used to descibe data. Please see http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum31/HTML/000086.html for a much better explanation.
Ravindra
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 08, 2000
Posts: 20
Hi Friends,
Thank you very much for your replies.
Specially Ray for taking special interest in my problem and giving very helpful advices (by mail and direct reply).
Thanks again,
Regards,
Ravindra..
ShivaPrasad Devaki
Greenhorn

Joined: Sep 21, 2000
Posts: 6
I thought Ravindra mentioned about regular Forte Rapid Application Development Environment which is generally used in component based development applications. In this technology Forte supports "TOOL" (Transactional Object Oriented Language) as development language. Ofcourse it is good to explore.
Ray Marsh
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Joined: Jan 12, 2000
Posts: 458
I refered to the only "Forte" that I've heard of (the Java IDE) I'm not familiar with any other.
If you were refering to something else, then I don't have any information about it.
Ajith Kallambella
Sheriff

Joined: Mar 17, 2000
Posts: 5782
Ravindra,
Are you talking about the 'old Forte' with TOOL code or the new 'Forte for Java' IDE by Sun??
I have been working on the ol' Forte for little more than four years now. As much as I have enjoyed working on it, I am quite concerned about the future of the product. Ever since Sun bought Forte inc( www.forte.com ) we haven't seen any signs of developments. Infact, Forte is slated for oblivion and Sun wants Java to be its natural successor. There has been a lot of griping and whining in the Forte world since the past ten months or so, but we all know nobody is listening!! Almost all the Forte engineers are now facing the inevitable option of career-shift!
Bottom line, this is probably not the best time to jump into the Forte bandwagon. There is a lot of money in Forte but the future looks haze. I would suggest you to go with XML/EJB/Servelets as that is where the 'unification of technology' is heading.
Good luck,
Ajith
Disclaimer : Views expressed in this response are personal and should not be taken as career advice. The author takes no legal responsibility what so ever on the contents.


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Ravindra
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 08, 2000
Posts: 20
Hi friends,
I dont know anything about Old/New Forte.
anyway, I have joined in XML company yesterday.
and I'm enjoying the job here.
Ajith, Ray, and Shiva, Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Thanks again,
Regards,
Ravindra

Steve Fahlbusch
Bartender

Joined: Sep 18, 2000
Posts: 570
    
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Good luck on your new job.
 
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