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The Level of the Book & Sample Chapters Availability

Ko Ko Naing
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Written for developers familiar with the basics of XML, this guide offers 27 tips for using proper XML syntax and structures to improve the maintainability and extensibility of XML documents, then presents ten techniques and APIs for processing XML with languages such as C++, C#, Java, Python and Perl, and 13 techniques for working with systems built around XML documents.Book News, Inc.�, Portland, OR

Hi Mr. Elliotte Rusty Harold,
By viewing the above description about the book from Amazon, I just would like to know whether the book is for newbies in XML or not. But it seems like the book is for those who already know XML and want to do some best practices on it.
And even though Elharo.com is his personal website, I could not find any link about the book so that I can download some sample pages from it...
Thanks...
[ February 24, 2004: Message edited by: Ko Ko Naing ]

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Lasse Koskela
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Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:
And even though Elharo.com is his personal website, I could not find any link about the book so that I can download some sample pages from it...
Actually, he also runs Cafe con Leche which does have sample chapters online (html).


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Ko Ko Naing
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Hi Lasse,
I saw the tutorials on the site you specified. There are chapters 17, 18, 19, 20 and 24 under the tutorial heading. Are they the sample chapters from the book?
Because I don't see any TOC for the book also...
Thanks a lot for the link to that site...
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Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:
There are chapters 17, 18, 19, 20 and 24 under the tutorial heading. Are they the sample chapters from the book?
Yes, they are.
Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:
Because I don't see any TOC for the book also...
The TOC is available from the publisher's site.
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Lasse Koskela:
The TOC is available from the publisher's site.

Lasse,
I have just seen the TOC on Cafe con Leche... We can click on the picture of the book on that page and here is the link to the TOC.
At first, I accidently click the picture and I was forwarded to that TOC page... There we can see a lot of sample chapters in HTML format... Great!
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True. The one at AW is a bit more detailed, though.
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Lasse Koskela:
True. The one at AW is a bit more detailed, though.

Yeah AW has more details... Thanks for that link, Lasse... I hope others might find it useful as well...
But, Lasse, this link, that I have mentioned has more sample chapters in HTML format...
[ February 25, 2004: Message edited by: Ko Ko Naing ]
Elliotte Rusty Harold
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I really do need to update elharo.com. In the meantime, my site for the book is at http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml which inlcuudes table of contents and about ten sample chapters.


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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Elliotte Rusty Harold:
I really do need to update elharo.com. In the meantime, my site for the book is at http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml which inlcuudes table of contents and about ten sample chapters.

Thanks a lot for your warm reply, MrHarold... We do hope that people out here have a chance to taste the deliciousnees of your book at the site you have mentioned and the sites that Lasse and I mentioned up there as well...
Yuriy Grechukhin
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Mr. Harold,
I have been a frequent visitor to your cafeaulait website for quite some time (actually since I took you class in Polytechnic) for Java news and opinions. But I haven't noticed your postings at such forums as javaranch and sun's java forum. Any particular reason you haven't been active in such things or you just never got around to do that?


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Elliotte Rusty Harold
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Time is finite. The more time I spend doing this, the less time I have to do other tings. That's all. Most things I have to say I can say on my sites or one of the various mailing lists such as xml-dev I subscribe to.
This week I'm particpiating here as part of a special promotion for Effefctive XML that JavaRanch and Addison-Wesley set up.
Jorge Blaz
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Maybe that's a bit off-topic, but i'd like to know what was the reason of choosing the spanish sentence "cafeconleche" (in English: coffee with milk) for your website?. Just curious :-)
Elliotte Rusty Harold
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The original site was Cafe au Lait, which was dedicated to Java. It was founded at a time everyone was using really bad coffee metaphors for their Java products (JavaBeans, Roaster, etc.) I picked Cafe au Lait because I'm from New Orelans where I learned to love cafe au lait and beignets at the Morning Call.
When I founded a similar site dedicated to XML, I kept the theme going with Cafe con Leche, which is essentially the same as Cafe au Lait except you order it in a Spanish restaurant in New York instead of a French restaurant in New Orleans. Also it usually doesn't have chicory in it so it's a little smoother.
If I ever found a third site, I'm thinking of calling it Mokka mit Schlag (and if anybody registers mokkamitschlag.org after reading this I promise to show up outside your house at 3:00 A.M. in the morning in a very large sound truck playing the complete works of William Shatner. :-)
 
 
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