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Johannes de Jong
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I read the following somewhere :
One of the discussions centers around a lifecycle of Listen (requirements) -> Test -> Code -> Design. Listen closely to customers while gathering their requirements. Develop test cases. Code the objects (using pair programming).

Does this imply that only the coding is done in pairs ?.
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I guess it would be tricky to listen on your own :-)
All parts of XP are collaborative, but there's special emphasis on programming because it's so new to many people to do that in a collaborative way.
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Johannes de Jong
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A geek with a sence of humor , saw you posting elsewere where you called yourself one.

By the way : The Agile Alliance what next a company, one product, (like UML) or just a bunch of geeks having fun sking, eating etc.
And whilst I have youre attention, do you know of any companies in the Netherlands that use XP.
Thanks, for your time.

swear PP was invented for people that can't spell

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martin fowler
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The Agile Alliance is nothing more than a web site ( http://agilealliance.org/ ), a manifesto, and the personal relationships behind it. We don't expect any unified agile whatsit - because we actually think there should be many different processes for different kinds of problems.
If you're interested in XP in the Netherlands, I'd post a question to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/

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Johannes de Jong
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Thanks Martin I'll post a message.
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Martin,
I presume some new process guidelines will come out in the form of a paper or book. Is their any timeline on when we might see some detailed info on Agile Methodologies?

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