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XP lifecycle

 
Johannes de Jong
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I read the following somewhere :
One of the discussions centers around a lifecycle of Listen (requirements) -> Test -> Code -> Design. Listen closely to customers while gathering their requirements. Develop test cases. Code the objects (using pair programming).

Does this imply that only the coding is done in pairs ?.
 
martin fowler
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I guess it would be tricky to listen on your own :-)
All parts of XP are collaborative, but there's special emphasis on programming because it's so new to many people to do that in a collaborative way.
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Johannes de Jong
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A geek with a sence of humor , saw you posting elsewere where you called yourself one.

By the way : The Agile Alliance what next a company, one product, (like UML) or just a bunch of geeks having fun sking, eating etc.
And whilst I have youre attention, do you know of any companies in the Netherlands that use XP.
Thanks, for your time.

swear PP was invented for people that can't spell

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The Agile Alliance is nothing more than a web site ( http://agilealliance.org/ ), a manifesto, and the personal relationships behind it. We don't expect any unified agile whatsit - because we actually think there should be many different processes for different kinds of problems.
If you're interested in XP in the Netherlands, I'd post a question to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/

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Johannes de Jong
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Thanks Martin I'll post a message.
 
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Martin,
I presume some new process guidelines will come out in the form of a paper or book. Is their any timeline on when we might see some detailed info on Agile Methodologies?

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