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Welcome James Shore & Shane Warden

Jeanne Boyarsky
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This week, we're delighted to have James Shore & Shane Warden helping to answer questions about the new book The Art of Agile Development.

The promotion starts Tuesday, October 30th 2007 and will end on Friday, November 2nd 2007.

We'll be selecting four random posters in this forum to win a free copy of the book provided by the publisher, O'Reilly.

Please see the Book Promotion page to ensure your best chances at winning!

Posts in this welcome thread are not eligible for the drawing.

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James Shore
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Thanks, Jeanne! I'm glad we could be here. The book just got back from the printer and should be showing up on store shelves next week. People who want to order it online can get a 35% discount by ordering direct from O'Reilly ( and using the "JAVAGL" coupon code. (Unfortunately, the code only works for U.S. customers for some complicated legal reason.)

You can see the table of contents at . I'm looking forward to the discussion!

James Shore, coauthor of <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Art of Agile Development</a>. Website and blog at <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></A> .
Raghavan Muthu
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That's great.

Welcome to JavaRanch, James Shore & Shane Warden

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Bill Tob

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
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Hi guys,
I know is a common question, but I would like to know the way you would sell Agile idea to a RUP Oriented shop....
Noam Wolf

Joined: Jul 29, 2007
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I would like to know what you feel about the size of a team in a scrum environment. What should be the ideal size of a team? According to Ken Schwaber it should be roughly up to 7 people... but what happens when you get cross functional "horizontal" assets in a sprint and your teams grow to 14? how do you mitigate that?
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Just curious ..What does the cover picture on the book signifies ?
Mark Uppeteer
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Hello ranchers,

At my company, we tried to develop agile, but we've noticed it its very difficult to maintain in an environment that doesn't support it. It's like a continues fight and very exhausting. The demos at the end of the sprint, great idea... the only problem is we've got loads of (sarcasm and) critisism on things that were not yet implemented. 'where is this' 'how do you do that' without really looking at what was done. I know they are supposed to say what the team should implement the next sprint , but somehow it were always us saying 'we're gonna do that and that'. We missed guidance from (product)management.

@James, I read most of your articles at and must say I recognized a lot.
But somehow I'm afraid that only programmers read these types of articles.
In your book, do you address how to implement agile development in a sceptic and hesitating environment ?

Best regards,

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Shane Warden

Joined: Oct 03, 2007
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Originally posted by Bill Tob:

I know is a common question, but I would like to know the way you would sell Agile idea to a RUP Oriented shop....

That's a good question, Bill. I suppose the best answer is "It depends".

If it were up to me, I'd try to find the biggest problem (or most valuable missed opportunity) and figure out a way to apply agile practices to it. For example, if you're having issues with code quality, I suggest starting to adopt test driven development and refactoring. If your customer isn't satisfied about what you're delivering, have him or her sit with your team one day a week for a month.

I assume here that because you have a process, there's a certain amount of team support for that process, and adopting agile practices in stages will be most effective. You don't have to say explicitly "Let's pull in some agile practices" or "I pulled this out of an XP book", but you do need to choose what you do deliberately, with assent from the rest of the team, and you need to promote a culture within your team where you analyze how the practice is working or not working and adjust it accordingly.

Sometimes encouraging that kind of reflection on your processes is a team's biggest need.

If you're working with a new team on a new project, you may have more freedom to experiment with new approaches, but I think you do need assent from the rest of the team and the discipline to reflect on what's happening.

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Ilja Preuss

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Hi James, hi Shane,

nice to see you here! I look forward to an interesting week.

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Jeanne Boyarsky
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