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The Art of Agile Development - Agile vs RUP

rafi qureshi
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Agile Development delivers the work faster but we miss strategic approach for development which turns into not very good product developed which can be achieved using RUP process. Please explain how is this better than RUP.
JeanLouis Marechaux
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You cannot compare Agile to RUP.

First, Agile is not a methodology but a set of principle documented in the Agile Manifesto
RUP is a methodology for software and system delivery when the principles are documented, but also the roles, activities, and delivery processes (Work Breakdown structure to achieve a specific goal). So while Agile is identifying the theory, RUP gives elements also at the project plan level(WBS)

Second, Agile and RUP principles are very similar in essence. I know this statement is not popular in the Agile community, but it is so true. Take a look at Agile principles, and compare to RUP principles. It fits
* Adapt the Process
* Balance Competing Stakeholder Priorities
* Collaborate Across Teams
* Demonstrate Value Iteratively
* Elevate Level of Abstraction
* Focus Continuously On Quality

You can compare two different Agile methodologies though. Like RUP and XP for instance.
Some references can help:
Comparison of XP and RUP
using RUP for small projects

last, but not least, RUP is not only one methodology. It is a family of methodologies, all based on a common Core. And the most Agile element of that family is OpenUP

Other elements of the family are listed here


/ JeanLouis<br /><i>"software development has been, is, and will remain fundamentally hard" (Grady Booch)</i><br /> <br />Take a look at <a href="http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openup/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agile OpenUP</a> in the Eclipse community
rafi qureshi
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This explains a lot.

Thanks
Rafi Qureshi
Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by rafi qureshi:
Agile Development delivers the work faster but we miss strategic approach for development which turns into not very good product developed which can be achieved using RUP process. Please explain how is this better than RUP.


Where does your impression that Agile projects miss a strategic approach come from? That's not at all my experience...


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Shane Warden
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Originally posted by Ilja Preuss:
Where does your impression that Agile projects miss a strategic approach come from? That's not at all my experience...


It depends on the skill of the customer at prioritizing tasks. If there's no strategic vision, the effective strategy of the project can change dramatically from iteration to iteration.

We have an entire section devoted to Vision and its importance in projects. Strategic thinking is definitely important, else you may not deliver long-term value to your customer.


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Jeff Anderson
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I do believe that agile can use some help from RUP in providing larger scale milestones in civil agile-based iterative development can provide.

That being said, RUP needs to be significantly trimmed down, and altered to be compliant with an agile approach.

I've just published a couple posts on the topic I invite you to take a look,@
agile over RUP

Regards
Jeff
http://agileconsulting.blogspot.com
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