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Leroy Lemon

Joined: Dec 15, 2005
Posts: 21
I'm trying to talk the boss into some new gear and I thought I'd do a survey to see what my fellow java developers are using for hardware.

My system specs....

P4 2.8 ghz Hyperthreaded cpu
1.28 gigs ram
60 gig hard drive
xp pro sp2

Do you think that this is enough to adequately run JDeveloper and Eclipse? (I use both for different tasks)
Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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Joined: Aug 26, 2006
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You're not going to have a problem with those specs.

However, two things would greatly improve your experience, with relatively minor cost.

1. Bump up the memory to 2 Gigs. Memory is getting cheaper, and memory is typically the biggest bottleneck in these systems.

2. Think about a second hard drive. Hard drives are getting cheaper, and quite often your processor is faster than data can be fed to it from the hard drive. If you add a second 60 gig hard drive, you'll double your spindles, and greatly improve access.

Going for a bigger hard drive isn't the right thing to do. You're much better off having two 60 gigs, than having one 120 Gig.

In fact, I'd downgrade the processor to a 2.5, if it meant getting more memory or more hard drive spindles.

Joe Ess

Joined: Oct 29, 2001
Posts: 9189

I alternate between two machines. My laptop is a Fujitsu N3510 with a 1.73Ghz Pentium M and 1GB of RAM. My desktop is an HP/Compaq dc7011s with a P4 at 2.8Ghz and 512Mb of RAM. Both are fine running Eclipse, Weblogic 8.1 SP5, Firefox, SmartCVS, JEdit and other apps simultaneously.
I question Kameron's claim that adding a second hard drive would increase performance. One would either have to configure a RAID to stripe data across both drives (to take advantage of the spindles) or configure your apps and data so that both drives are used (i.e. applications on one drive, data on the other). In any case, on a desktop system where data access is more than likely linear (i.e. loading an app or reading a bunch of source for compiling) as opposed to random (i.e. a file server) I doubt that a second drive would boost performance noticibly.

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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Joined: Jul 08, 2003
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One spec that people seem to rarely quote, and yet that makes an enormous difference, is bus speed. The difference between a 100MHz and 200MHz FSB is huge. Cheapo systems will have a seemingly "fast" processor, but inferior motherboard and chipset with a slow FSB.

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Rich Poock

Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Posts: 9
My desktop has a hyperthread 3.0 ghz P4, 2 gig ram, an 80 gig hard drive and XP Pro SP2. I have no problems running IBM Rational Application Developer and DB2 client.
Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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I'd have to say that Joe is correct.

Simply adding a hard drive alone won't take advantage of the extra spindles. The extra hard drive would need to be use properly.

Doing things like keeping systems files on one drive, and a page file on the second, or installing a development tool on one hard drive, but keeping the workspace and code on a second hard drive would all be required to take advantage of the extra hard drive.

Bear Bibeault
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Joined: Jan 10, 2002
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MacBook Pro 15"
2GHz Core Duo
OS X 10.4
80G drive
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Satish Chilukuri
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Joined: Jun 23, 2005
Posts: 266
My work PC specs:

P4 2.68 GHz
40 GB HD
Win Xp Pro SP2

This can run WSAD (and the bundled test server), FireFox, Outlook , Word, Excel and Acrobat reader simultaneously.
Stan James
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I have 3.1 ghz and 2 gig memory at home. Coupled with a faster network, it runs circles around my little Dell laptop at work. I honestly don't know the CPU on the laptop, 1 gig memory. It works fine except when virus scan decides Eclipse is an attack every time it looks at a file. MacAfee can run 99% CPU all day on a full rebuild.

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Alec Lee
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Joined: Jan 28, 2004
Posts: 569
Hmmm, I am HAPPILY running Eclipse/Myeclipse + tomcat in......

PIII 800MHz, 384M Ram, XP Pro SP2
Lasse Koskela

Joined: Jan 23, 2002
Posts: 11962
2 GHz Core Duo
75 GB Serial-ATA hard drive
Mac OS X

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