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Kourosh Keshavarzi
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Joined: Oct 23, 2000
Posts: 66
I'd like to thank all the people who passed their exam and then posted
their opinion about the exam and gave study tips. Special thanks to people
who said that the exam was really tough. They really scared and motivated me.
I though I was ready after only 4 weeks of preparation but I extended it to
6 weeks. The main thing I did with the extra time was take a lot of practice exams.
Taking lots of practice exam is what helped me the most. I could have passed
the exam after 4 weeks but barely. If all you want to do is pass the exam then
the exam was pretty easy. If you understand the major concepts and are able to find
problem with code then just take maybe 5-6 practice exam and then go for it.
But if you want to get a high score then you'll have to study a lot more.
Just remember how in school the difference between a B and an A was twice the studying.
Same rule applies here.
The two major concerns for people seems to be threads and code intensive questions.
The thread question were not that bad I got 85% on that.
But then again I concentrated a little bit extra on threads.
As for code intensity, that's wasn't a problem. I think that helped me.
I love the new format of the exam. I think it must be easier than the old one.
At least its is for me since I am bad at memorizing and I think to make room
for the extra coded questions they took out lots of theoretical ambiguous type questions.
That�s great. You can stare at a theoretical question all day and if you don't know it you
won't ever get it. No matter how long you stare at it. But with coded question it might
take a little bit longer but you'll get the answer eventually.
But guess what part I did the worst at. java.lang. I got only 50% on that.
Everybody told me they did the worst on the easy stuff and I guess its true.
On the other hand my worst subjects like io I got 100%.
Anyway I am still going to be visiting this site and participating.
I think there is still a lot I could learn about java. And I would love to
be able to help any of you if I can. I will. Even if I don't know the answer
I'd love to research it. Now I got all the time in the world. Its nice to finally
be able to just learn java to learn java and not just rushing throw everything
just to pass the exam. Its going to be nice to be able to take my time and
practice one topic slowly and properly instead of going fast worrying about all
the other things I still have to learn. My problem is that I had a serious deadline.
Other wise I would have practiced coding a lot more. That�s the one thing I wish
I'd done. The week before the exam lock up all you notes and books and just
pick one subject everyday and practice the heck out of it. Just play with it
that will help you more than any book. A lot of the question you're only going
to get right if by luck you have tried that exact code before. Forget about the books
and the notes you already know everything you need to know if you only have a week
left. Just practice.
Thanks again everybody . I couldn't have done it without this friendly, supportive, professional site.
Kourosh Keshavarzi
Shubhangi A. Patkar
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Joined: Sep 20, 2000
Posts: 78
That's great. Thanks for your insights and i really hope you will be around to help us. for four weeks study you have a really good score.
faiza haris
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Joined: Oct 17, 2000
Posts: 173
Good to hear your views....just wanted to ask were u working alongwith in the preparation time??
Regarding the coding i know u�r right and what would u recommend to improve the java.lang section? Do you have any code stuff notes that you could email?
Thanx for sharing your opinion!
Udayan Naik
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Joined: Oct 18, 2000
Posts: 135
Congratulations Kourosh.Best of luck for ur future.
Come on in !! Drinks are on the house in the Big Moose Saloon !!

Udayan Naik<BR>Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform
Kourosh Keshavarzi
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Joined: Oct 23, 2000
Posts: 66
Shubhangi, actualy I prepared for 6 weeks. I could have passed with say after 4 weeks of studying. But there is no way I could have gotten more than 70% at that time. I would say after you know everything every extra week you study you will increase you score by 9-10%.
I didn't have any java expreince. I just speed read through
1/2 of a java introduction book learned what an object is and
all that and the I started my preparation. I was not working during my preparation. That would have been impossible.
Even though I think I read another post were the lady was a single parent and was working and studied part time
in 2 month and passed.
If you are knew to java and just like me had no training and
no java experience and feel its impossible send me an email.
I can may be coach you and encourage you to do this. And I'd be able to go into more details all the mitake I made. I feel I wasted at least 2 1/2 week of my studying by just taking mindless notes and making a futile attempt at reading JLS.
Unless you're looking to get 90 - 100% please don't try to read
the JLS if you a beginner. Its not impossible. Infact anyone can do it.
As for the java.lang and the Object class you need to learn more than just definition and a good idea of what you can do with it.
This is a good and very easy area to practice in. The question
won't look like anything you've seen. That goes for 3-4 different
question I got. There were 3-4 time in the test were I thought
hey I didn't know you could use that in that way.
Let me be more specific:
Do you think you got a good handle on == and equals and what you can and can't do--you don't. Go back and take another look.
Play around with when you pass objects to other methods and have them manipulated by the other method. I can guarantee you all of those are tricky. Until you get how they are trying to trick you
as long as you think its obvious you got it wrong.
With IO concentrate on the main ones. The stuff you know you'd used most often in real life.
If I think of anything else I'll post it later.
OH and sorry for the long posts. I just realy want to
see everyone pass and not make the mistake I made.
I'm already trying to help some of my co-workers and
friends get certified.

Ajith Kallambella

Joined: Mar 17, 2000
Posts: 5782
Fantastico!!! Congratulations Kourosh

Open Group Certified Distinguished IT Architect. Open Group Certified Master IT Architect. Sun Certified Architect (SCEA).
Mary Anitha

Joined: Oct 13, 2000
Posts: 23
Congratulations kourosh
Good luck in your career
Mary Anitha
Prasad Ballari
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Joined: Sep 23, 2000
Posts: 149
Kourosh ,
Congrates . Good luck for next exam.
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Joined: Oct 13, 2000
Posts: 66
Congratulations Kourosh
You really deserve your success because you worked hard at it...
All the best in u'r future endeavours
shailesh sonavadekar
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Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Posts: 1874
Congrats . Best wishes for the future.
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