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Roger Chase
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 20, 2001
Posts: 17
Words can't quite express how I felt when my print out read "You answered 34 right. Status: Fail" I felt that to come so close was....well, almost as if the gods were mocking me. But it's been a few days and I do feel somewhat better.
A little history, if you're interested. I was hired by CMGI--through a friend. I have a minor in CS but I've never really programmed before...some C++ but a friend had helped me through the tough stuff. Anyway, when you're hired you have to work through a workbook. I was doing fine, learning exponentially, until I cam to the Java section. This isn't something you can study over the weekend and come in programming on Monday. Anywho...the jig was up and I was let go. I swore to myself that I would conquer Java and get back to programming. I read a few books, like Java in 24 hours(to begin with) than Java in 21 days---than I finally decided to get serious and I set the goal to pass the exam. That was a month and a half ago. I sat down with a Java certification book, but I have to tell you, I started looking at Javaranch about a week before the exam, read alot of what people wrote, and ordered JQPlus with about 4 days until my exam.
I want thank the developers of JQPlus for getting me as close as I came!!! If I had followed their guidelines of taking a test a day for 8 days insted of taking 3 tests a day just to finish it, I'm sure I would have passed.
For me, reading theory and than a little code is all well and good, and necessary, but the real meat of learning is when your mind is on fire working through problems and looking for the right answers in a timed situation. I learned more in 4 days than in almost the whole month...or at least what I'd been reading was able to take root.
Anyway, as for the Test itself, I though it was tough, but not as hard as I though it was going to be. The code was all about 12-24 lines long, and almost every question has a 'does not complile' answer. The real enemy is the clock. I was so nervous about answering everything right that I over-checked and re-read...and at the end I didn't even have time to get back all the ones I was unsure about. Anyone who reads these posts should know they are going to hit Threads and I/O pretty heavily--and they do, especially threads. There were a few questions on AWT, but don't spend an in-ordinate amount of time on it. My breakdown was such:
Declarations & Access control..................50%
Flow control & exception handling..............71%
Garbage Collection.............................100%
Language Fundamentals...........................66%
Operators & Assignments........................28%
Overloading, -riding, Runtime Type, and Object
Orientations....................................42%
Threads.........................................42%
AWT package.....................................50%
lang package...................................100%
Util package..................................100%
I/O............................................80%
Anyway, I am obviously a little dissapointed....so close yet so far!
I would appreciate any advice from anyone or insights you may have gained from my experience.....especially from those in my situation, who were a little short the 1st time but PASSED the second time. I'm going to take it again after re-working through JQPlus (I never got to the random exam and only to each test once.) For what its worth, JQPlus was a great investment! The questions, if not totally similar(and in some cases they are) at least replicate the type of thought process you have to follow.
Thanks to everyone for their advice! I'll get'm in a couple weeks!
-Roger
Roger Chase
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 20, 2001
Posts: 17
By the way...you have to get 36 questions right, not 35. You have to get a 61 % of 59...maybe y'all knew that, but I thought someone said 35 was passing.
Jane Griscti
Ranch Hand

Joined: Aug 30, 2000
Posts: 3141
Hi Roger,
Sorry to hear you didn't make it on the first try. You've certainly got the right attitude towards it and now you've got a road map!
Best advice I can give you ... write as many pieces of code as you can; nothing drives the concepts home better than trying to work them out in code.
Best of luck on your next attempt.
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Jane Griscti
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java� 2 Platform


Jane Griscti
SCJP, Co-author Mike Meyers' Java 2 Certification Passport
Ajith Kallambella
Sheriff

Joined: Mar 17, 2000
Posts: 5782
You have done pretty well except for -
Operators & Assignments........................28%
Overloading, -riding, Runtime Type, and Object
Orientations....................................42%
Threads.........................................42%
If you ask me, dont' spend time reading the other stuff where you have scored 60% or above. Concentrate on just these three areas since they are your weakest subjects.
Write programs( if you have done already, write more!! ), do mocks. If you keep stumbling on some specific issues, come to SCJP forum and ask. Remember, there is no limit to how many questions you can ask
Don't feel disheartened. Good luck
Ajith


Open Group Certified Distinguished IT Architect. Open Group Certified Master IT Architect. Sun Certified Architect (SCEA).
Dennis Lewis
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 03, 2001
Posts: 4
Roger you did better than me in some areas and I passed
this morning. My scores
Declarations 75%
Flow Control 71%
Garbage 0%
Language 77%
Operators 71%
Overloading 100%
Threads 85%
java.awt 100%
java.lang 100%
java.util 100%
java.io 60%
I passed with 47/59 but you did better in garbage and file.io
just keep at it
Michael Shields
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 17, 2001
Posts: 10
Don't think of yourself as "losing", but "winning" because the only way to fail is to quit trying. You have gained in your knowledge of Java and YOU WILL pass if you keep trying.
Angie Zheng
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 11, 2001
Posts: 1
Roger,
I've wanted to reply to your posting since last Friday. I am in the same boat with you.
After 9 weeks of intensive study and I took the exam on Friday, got 55%. I was so upset but come to know that you are there with me and now I am much better and gone back to study.
A little history of me too if you are interested. I was hired by a local consulting firm in CT -- again, like you thru a friend. I have no programming experience except some SAS. Started the work 9 weeks ago hoping if I clear the exam, I would be put on a project. So I studied 12 - 13 hours a day for 9 weeks and still didn't past the exam. Now with the economy went downhill I was asking to look for another job. I don't know how I am going to find a JR. Java programmer job without any work experience.
Anyway, my exam breakdown is very similiar to yours except garbage collection where I got 0%. I am going to write as many code as I could. Good luck.
shailesh sonavadekar
Ranch Hand

Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Posts: 1874
Roger , Don't loose heart. You will come out with flying colors.
Do as mentioned by Ajith. Real Pearls of Wisdom from him.
How correctly mentioned by Michael " only way to fail is to quit trying."

All the very best for the future endevours.
Your Friendly Bartender
Shailesh.
Kenneth Ho
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 22, 2001
Posts: 18
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm also studying for SCJP.
Have you seen Velmurugan's note. I find there are lots of important things in the doc that you have to notice in the exam.
http://www.geocities.com/velmurugan_p/
Kenneth Ho


--------------------<BR>Java will never die.<P>Kenneth
 
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