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Rob Petterson
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Joined: Jan 23, 2002
Posts: 149
I got 57%
The exam to me seemed pretty tough compared to all the mocks I've taken.
The first 8 questions were all on threads!, plus 2 more questions on them in the middle of the exam. That did nothing for my confidence and made me a bit panicky. There was not one question which asked for true or false either.
The mocks I took I got the folling scores:
JWhiz
Test diagnostic 61%
Test 1 58%
Test 2 59%
Test 3 53%
Test 4 59%
Test 5 59%
Test 6 69%
Test 7 76%
JQ++
Test 1 66%
Test 2 48%
Test 3 55%
Test 4 65%
Test 5 53%
Test 6 58%
Test 7 58%
Plus another 15 or so from the net.
I did Marcus Green mock the night before and got 75% - I was under the impression that this mock's questions were on a par with the level of difflculty in the read thing.
Any advice??
Cheers
Rob


Rob Petterson
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Corey McGlone
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Joined: Dec 20, 2001
Posts: 3271
Well, glancing at your mock exam scores, I think your score on the final exam is about what I would have expected. Going in to the exam, I think you should be scoring around 75% or better, on average, on various mock exams.
My recommendation would be to go back to those exams and look at what you got wrong. Practice the concepts that you get wrong often. From what you said, it sounds like Threads aren't your strong point - work on those. Write some code to practice and hang around here asking, and answering, questions.
Best of luck,
Corey


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Valentin Crettaz
Gold Digger
Sheriff

Joined: Aug 26, 2001
Posts: 7610
Rob,
I'm sorry to hear that but looking at your results I think that you haven't invested enough time in learning the concepts. If you would have posted *those results* before scheduling your exam I would have told you not to because they are way too low for attempting SCJP. As Corey said, you should at least score 75% in your mock exams before taking the real exam. My hint is to stay around, work harder and ask questions. We'll help you and you'll pass next time
Moving this to the results forum...
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Jon Huhtala
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Joined: Apr 10, 2002
Posts: 17
Rob,
Sorry you didn't make it this time - but you were close. Next time you will have the advantage of more practice and knowing what to expect.
A technique I found extremely helpful was to keep a notebook of all the mistakes I made on practice exams and their solutions (plus other key things I was fuzzy on). I ended up with about 60 pages of notes that I read through EVERY day for two weeks before my exam. I nearly had it memorized.
You WILL make it, Rob, it's just a matter of time and effort.


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Ricardo Cortes
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Joined: Jan 23, 2002
Posts: 140
Hang in there Rob. I have a friend who failed the exam on the first try and he went back to the drawing board and simply took more and more mock exams, sometimes repeating the same exams until he was scoring around 80% on average. He took it again and successfully passed...


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sonir shah
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Joined: Nov 01, 2001
Posts: 435
Rob,
you were Close.Dont worry..
Work a bit harder and you will defintely make it next time.
Sonir
Raghav Mathur
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Joined: Jan 12, 2001
Posts: 641
I never got more than 55% in any of the jq+ exam . It depends a lot how much you think and apply in the actual exam . That's what counts my dear . The score you've got does not prove that you don't know the language or something but definately tells you to be more carefull next time . You will do it if you have the will to do it and i,am sure you'll do it next time by gods grace .don't worry . All the best .
regards
raghav mathur
Originally posted by Rob Petterson:
I got 57%
The exam to me seemed pretty tough compared to all the mocks I've taken.
The first 8 questions were all on threads!, plus 2 more questions on them in the middle of the exam. That did nothing for my confidence and made me a bit panicky. There was not one question which asked for true or false either.
The mocks I took I got the folling scores:
JWhiz
Test diagnostic 61%
Test 1 58%
Test 2 59%
Test 3 53%
Test 4 59%
Test 5 59%
Test 6 69%
Test 7 76%
JQ++
Test 1 66%
Test 2 48%
Test 3 55%
Test 4 65%
Test 5 53%
Test 6 58%
Test 7 58%
Plus another 15 or so from the net.
I did Marcus Green mock the night before and got 75% - I was under the impression that this mock's questions were on a par with the level of difflculty in the read thing.
Any advice??
Cheers
Rob


Raghav.
Dan MacKenzie
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 12, 2002
Posts: 8
Time Time Time. This is the key to success when preparing for SCJP2. I passed with a 66%. If I had studied for 12 fewer hours, then I definitely would have failed. If I had studied for 40 additional hours, then I could have got an 85%. Now that you see how much study time got you a 57%, you can budget your time accordingly for the next time. If you can get 57%, you can get 61%.
Good Luck,
Dan MacKenzie
Joseph Hammerman
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Joined: Jan 19, 2002
Posts: 76
You came close. You just need to study some more. Do a reasonable amount of additional study.
I would suggest more work on jq+, including retaking the mock exams you took previously.
I would also use the partial results Sun provided you with and study the chapters on material you did poorly on the exam. I would also you the customization feature of the mock exam products to work on those areas you did poorly on.
Reid M. Pinchback
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Joined: Jan 25, 2002
Posts: 775
Hi Rob, keep the faith; better luck next time. Since I just passed, I'll tell you what I found worked for me.

The mock exams are not a great way to learn the material. No matter what your score is, if you have areas of real weakness the exams aren't going to help you. They polish what you've got; then don't create knowledge that isn't there. What worked for me was:
1. I read a cert book (actually, 2) so I knew roughly what was expected of me.
2. I wrote dozens of stupid little one-paragraph or one-page programs to test out various concepts. Any time I read something and thought "does that really work that way?" or "hmm... the book says X is true in this case, I wonder what would happen in another situation". I learned a lot that way *and* found mistakes in the cert material I was reading!
3. I created a flash-card program (more AWT and I/O practice), nothing fancy, just display the question, give myself somewhere to type a response, then finally display the correct answer. Flagged wrong answers and re-displayed the question later in the quiz.
4. I typed up files of questions, starting with writing a few per chapter of the cert book I was reading. Then, when I tried "practice exercises" or the cert exam in the bok, if something stumped me I used my mistake to think up more cards to add to the quiz. By the time I was done I had 529 questions. Some questions were simple (e.g. "what is the parent class of FileWriter"), some deep (e.g. "list all the rules for assignment conversion of Object references").
5. Then and only then I waded through 8 or 9 of the mock exams. Before I started them I thought I'd ace them all. Instead I found little mistakes all over the place. That is when I got the most from the mocks; they filled in gaps, and showed me how I'd gotten too used to the way material was presented in the cert book. They also helped me to things (1) get faster; (2) realize I was losing about 10% of my marks to sloppy reading.
In the end, I did pretty well... not as well as those who almost memorize the JLS and the package contents, but I was happy with the results.


Reid - SCJP2 (April 2002)
Nazmul Huda Sarkar
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Joined: Feb 01, 2002
Posts: 317
Hello Rob
Always learn from your mistake. As I see your test result, I guess you didn�t do this. But this is very important. Check what you did wrong so that next time you don�t do the same mistake again.
Hope better for the next.


Nazmul<br />SCJP,SCWCD,IBM OOAD with UML
 
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