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Passed SCEA Part I (100%)

Byron Estes
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Joined: Feb 21, 2002
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Just got my socre, I'm very psyched!
Thanks to everyone who works to make this site and the forums so useful.
I can't wait to start part II.
Regards,


Byron Estes<br />Sun Certified Enterprise Architect<br />Senior Consulant<br />Blackwell Consulting Services<br />Chicago, IL<br /><a href="http://www.bcsinc.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.bcsinc.com</a>
raj sekar
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Joined: Mar 11, 2002
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Congrats Byron!!! Great Score.
Can you post the links for all the notes/mocks you used?
Thanks,
Raj
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Congrats Byron. Good Job.
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Mathew Sam
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Joined: Dec 19, 2001
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Great Score . Congrats...

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Perfect job Byron
Keep it up and good luck


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Byron Estes
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Thanks for all the pats on the back!
Raj, asked me to post what I used to study.
First off, I've been doing stuff like this for 15 years. Java primarily for the last 5 and I've done projects that touch alot of the topics covered. As a result, I brought alot of knowledge with me before I ever started studing for the exam.
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Books
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Enterprise Java Beans (O'Reilly) by Richard Monson-Haefel
GOF4
Designing Enterprise Applications with the Java 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition by Kassem/Enterprise Team
Matering EJB (1.1. and 2) by Ed Roman
Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for J2EE Technology
Java Messaging Service (O'Reilly)
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Specifications
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Enterprise JavaBeans Specification 1.1
(Read this at least twice...Once before you read the Ed Roman book and again afterwards. I was amazed at how much this helped and how much more information I perceived reading it the second time.)
Also, don't rush...take your time. This is not an easy read and you may feel compelled to skim through it. DON'T.
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Mock Exams
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www.moelholm.com
I used a couple of others, but these were by far the best. Thanks Nicky! The second exam, in my opinion, is better than the first (...I think Nicky wrote the 2nd after taking the exam).
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Links
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All the UML you need for the exam...
http://www.togethersoft.com/services/practical_guides/umlonlinecourse/index.html
All the links already noted in the JavaRanch link page for SCEA.
I'd didn't just read about this stuff. If I hadn't used it before, I did some prototyping to make sure I understood how it worked. I'm very hands on and their were a number of questions that I might have missed if I didn't have that experience upon which to draw (...You don't need to memorize the API's, but by using them you can't help but to absorb some of the information. Also, it's like mathematics you can either memorize the formulas or you can understand why the formulas work, so that if you forget the formula you can still get the answer.
Ask questions in the forums and try to answer other peoples questions. On a number of occasions I read a question, didn't know the answer then, but researched it and later provided a response. It's a great way to expand and exercise/reinforce your knowledge by reiteration/repitition. I also got into a number of "spirited" debates with JavaRanch folks which I think is great!
If I think of anything else, I'll add it later. Best of luck to everyone.
Regards,
raj sekar
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Joined: Mar 11, 2002
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Great Byron,
Thank you soo much!
Raj
SCJP2, SCWCD
Byron Estes
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Originally posted by raj sekar:
Great Byron,
Thank you soo much!
Raj
SCJP2, SCWCD

Anytime.
If you have any specific questions, drop me an email.
Regards,
faiza athar
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Joined: Oct 30, 2001
Posts: 136
Congrats!!!
Really great to know about your score and we'r marvelled by your knowledge...does it come with time? or experience? or i guess its hard work and dedication too!!!
Anyway any tips on which ide to use with weblogic and how to best grasp ejb concepts, any website of examples you could recommend?
Thanx
faiza
Nazmul Huda Sarkar
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Joined: Feb 01, 2002
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WOW!!! what a score...


Nazmul<br />SCJP,SCWCD,IBM OOAD with UML
Byron Estes
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faiza,
I thought it was a pretty difficult test. I used up every bit of time that was allotted. The questions were fair, but could be a bit ambiguous. Also, because it covers such a vast range of material it's difficult to be competent in all the areas. Many of the questions are scenario based and can be fairly lengthy. They give you an errasable board and pen to work things out, suprisingly I didn't write down a single thing. I did however mark about 1/3 of the questions for review, so that I could revisit them (...the ones I wasn't confident upon). I changed several, including one 2 times! When I finally finished with less than 2 minutes remaining, I was cautiously optimistic. I can't say that a perfect score didn't cross my mind, but it was more wishfull thinking than anything else. When the test administrator said, "You passed...", I thought "whew...I probably got an 80 or so score". Then she added, "...with 100%; I haven't seen one of those in a long time." I was stunned.
I did spend alot of time preparing the book list I provided was the main part of my preparation. I think I read most of the books at least twice and skimmed critical parts a few other times. I started to study for this before and stopped due to a project that I needed to commit most of my time to complete. In retrospect, that may have been a positive thing. I think it's kind of like painting. The first time studying put on a primer coat, so the second time could adhere and get better coverage.
I also think it's important to discuss the material with others. Get into debates over topics. If you can establish a study group, great, but java ranch has alot of pretty sharp people who aren't shy about giving you an opinion (...which is very valuable).
Also, I spent alot of time running through the material in my mind. Quizzing myself silently whenever I had a moment. I created some study notes, not because I actually read through them after I created them, but because I find the "act of writing/typing" something out especially in my own words "sets" things more firmly in my memory.
Well, as usual I've written a tome.
Regards,
Hema Menon
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Joined: Oct 29, 2000
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Big Congratulations Byron!
Good luck with Part II
Hema


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faiza athar
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Which server did you use for your "hands on" exercises of ejb???
Also is it possible to get a glimpse of your notes!!!
You'r really right that it really helps to write but in my case its taking too long and then i dunno where i can buy more chips for my memory
Which examples did u try for understanding the ejb concepts???
Quizzing myself...the best thing i'd recommend too! I do that while cooking
thanx for the support and guidance!
faiza
Jacob George
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Joined: Jun 26, 2001
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gr8 work lad.
Byron Estes
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Which server did you use for your "hands on" exercises of ejb???
Web Sphere Application Developer has a built in fully functional instance of WebSphere.
Which examples did u try for understanding the ejb concepts???
Really didn't use someone elses examples. I kind of just blazed my own trail. Sometimes following an example (...depending upon how detailed it is written), can make the task too trivial. I like to make mistakes and figure out how to solve them. I've always felt that I learned more from my failures than my sucesses. I'd suggest just makeing up something, maybe some components that you are common and could be re-used on future projects. In that way it's more likely to be a "real-life" example and be more useful. In addition to the ejb examples I also did some JMS protoyping to reinforce the concepts and refresh my memory on messaging in general (...it's been a couple of years since I use MQSeries and their proprietary Java API's for a project). I used SonicMQ for that, it was very easy to set up. The WebSphere version didn't support MessageDrivenBeans so I created listeing server.
Also is it possible to get a glimpse of your notes!!!
As I mentioned I primarily do this because writing the information down seems to reinforce and strengthen my ability to retain the information. Snipets are probably spread throughout my harddrive, and probably wouldn't be very organized. If I get some time, I'll see if there's anything that might help others, without embarrasing me .
Just make sure you read the questions carefully. Scrutinize them and look for the key words that relate to problem (i.e. CMT, BMT, stateless, stateful, issolation, etc...). Read all the answers completely and evaluate each one, don't just take the first answer that seems obviously correct.
Regards,
faiza athar
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Sorry for taking your time! As hard it may seem for some ppl to practice examples of their own...esp in writing codes...i just wish i could develop skills and be comfortable in writing my own examples.
Hey i really like your advice...thanx again!!!
I am working with Weblogic and playing around with the examples provided.Thats the first step!
So many concepts to grasp and miles to go b4 i sleep
Take care and keep giving us guidance!
faiza
 
 
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