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Passed SCJP with 91%

Dan Chisholm
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
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I just passed the scjp exam with a score of 91%. I didn't run into any difficult questions and I completed the exam in about one hour. I didn't mark any questions for review so I started rechecking at question number one. I checked only a few and found that I felt both bored and confident so I just hit the print button to end the exam. I probably could have raise my score by at least a few percentage points if I had actually rechecked my answers, but I felt certain that I would get at least a 90% even without the effort. Fortunately, I surpassed my goal by 1%.
Now that I have a better idea of the difficulty level of the real exam I think I'll go back and simplify my mock exam a little. (Well, maybe a lot.) I will certainly remove the triple-nested loops from the control flow questions and simplify the operators exam. I should have something ready within a few days or early next week.

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vivek sivakumar
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Joined: Aug 09, 2001
Posts: 187
Well on the first hand congrats dan.
Stopppppp dont alter ur difficult mock questions , ur questions not only train for certification but also many news concepts im(also others) getting out of it , so dont change the difficulty level , might be u can add some more questions ..!!! in any case this is just my personal view , but its ur site and ur questions... :roll:

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Don Bosco
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Joined: Oct 31, 2002
Posts: 108
Congrats Dan!!! I'm shocked to know that u haven't taken the exam yet.
Regarding your questions, I have these suggestions
* Reduce the number of options for an answer.
* Increase the number of questions in comprehensive exams to 61.
* Automate the tests so that people can take your tests online. If possible a test engine.
You can always get my help in automating the tests or designing the test engine.
Well anyway. Congrats again.

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Svend Rost
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Joined: Oct 23, 2002
Posts: 904
Congrats Dan with the great score
(Although I thought you had taken the exam ages ago!)
btw. Please dont change the mock test you got!
As your test is harder it makes people train more - and learn more => becomming better.
Sudd Ghosh
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Joined: Oct 23, 2002
Posts: 187
Hi Dan-
Please don't change the difficulty level of your classic mock exams. You may go ahead and create something new, but keep the existing ones intact. This (your existing mocks), I think is a good vehicle for anybody who wants to learn Java seriously and not only pass the exam.
Anyway these is only my humble opinion. Please do whatever you think is good for the SCJP/Java community as a whole.
BTW.. Congrats on your score.. didn't know that you are not certified..
Thanks, Sudd

Dan Chisholm
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 1865
Thank you all for your responses.
I have frequently mentioned here at the saloon that I had two motivations for developing my exam. I wanted to use the process as preparation for taking the exam myself and I wanted to do something interesting with some recently learned XML and XSLT skills. I thought everyone knew.
I don't want to throw any questions away. I just want to move some of them to an area that is known to contain optional material. I did a little of that with the latest version of the exam, November 16. At the bottom of the topic exam page there is a section marked "Optional". I'm thinking about moving those to a new exam set so the site will have four sets: Optional, Comprehensive, Topic (organized by the objectives), and Study Guide (organized by the chapters of Khalid's book). BTW, I don't actually have Khalid's book. I just did the organization based on the table of contents that's available at Amazon so if my questions are not a perfect match for the chapters of the book then that's my excuse.
Now that I've taken the exam myself I have a much better idea of the actual difficulty level. As some of you have suggested, I intend to add a lot more questions that are at the same difficulty level as the real exam. Although some questions will move to the optional page they won't disappear completely.
I have organized the comprehensive exams with only 18 or 19 questions so that a person with limited study time can do one while the boss is occupied in a meeting or the kids are watching Sesame Street. I could also add an alternative exam set that averages 60 questions in size.
Yes, I have thought about moving the questions into an exam engine. I have a little AWT experience so I'm sure I could throw something together. I've been thinking that some people might want to buy an application that can be used off-line. Do you think anyone would pay $20 for that?
Valentin Crettaz
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Joined: Aug 26, 2001
Posts: 7610
Nice shot Dan
I'm not sure it would be a good idea to change the difficulty level of your mocks. People are used to them now. Moreover, difficulty brings a little spicy challenge. What you could do is to create new easier mocks and tag them "easy", "expert", ... either mock-wise or question-wise as it is done is several commercial test engines.
Keep up your excellent work Dan. Happy to have you around the ranch

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Manish Hatwalne
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Joined: Sep 22, 2001
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Congrats Dan!!
Of course, you had to score good marks!
BTW, did you find those Dan's mock exams, that everybody talks about, useful?
- Manish
Alfred Kemety
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Joined: Aug 14, 2002
Posts: 279
Congrats Dan really good...
Don't modify your exams, leave them and make new (61 questions) exams that is on the same level of difficulty of the real exam and call it MOCK exams something like Markus greens, also try to make questions with the same style as the ones in the exam.
Congrats again and maybe soon we meet on the SCWCD forum???

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Mallik Hiremath
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Joined: Oct 20, 2002
Posts: 46
Congratulations Dan,
Nice Score!!!
Perfect you can build a mock exame engine with your questions.
Mallik HM
Ruff Young
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Joined: Sep 26, 2002
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alberto ramos

Joined: Sep 23, 2002
Posts: 7
Dan Thank you.
Your exam questions have help me alot to pass the exam, and in the future to understand java better.
You are good source of inspiration. Thanks of helping us.

dragon ji
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Joined: Oct 31, 2002
Posts: 110
your mock exam help me passed the exam easily,and I have leaned many about java,that let me better coding.

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Rao Kodeboyina
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Joined: Jun 09, 2002
Posts: 35
Good Score, Congrats

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Peter Tran

Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 25
You helped so much people passing the exam. Congratulation!!! How about some mock exams for the SCWCD exam :-)

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Nagurva Reddy

Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 4
Congratulations Dan…..
Dan Chisholm
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
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Thank you for all of your responses. It's nice to know that my mock exams have been helpful.
I'm not sure which exam I'll work on next. I was thinking about the SCWCD exam, but the XML exam is also interesting. The content for my exams has been developed in XML format and converted to HTML using XSLT. It would be nice to take a more rigorous view of the XML technologies. I probably won't make any decisions until January or February.
Thank you!
Bert Bates

Joined: Oct 14, 2002
Posts: 8898
Dan -
Congrats !!
I agree with the others - don't change your mock exams. One idea might be to indicate whether a particular question is easier, the same as, or harder than the 'real' test. That way if you're cramming you'll know how to focus your time.

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Dan Chisholm
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
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Thank you Bert.
I did something similar to what you have suggested in the December 4 version of my exam. I moved the most difficult questions to sections of the exam marked "Optional". The optional questions are included on the single topic pages but they no longer appear on the comprehensive exam pages. This new organization is based on the idea that people will want to do some challenging questions early in the study process while working through an exam study guide. Later in the process they will be more interested in mock exams that more closely reflect the level of difficulty of the real thing.
I like your suggestion of indicating the level of difficulty of each question. The new organization described above accomplishes that to some degree but explicitly marking each question also sounds like an interesting idea.
Timothy Toe
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Joined: Oct 19, 2002
Posts: 156
Congrats Dan !!!
Thanks for your superb mocks !
Nice to have you around the ranch !
Shocked that you created so many questions even before you were certified. (Others practice mocks to study for cert, you create mocks to study for cert.)
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