Due to some recent e-mail and some recent posts here, I got to thinking about how much stuff Carl does around here. So I would like to take this moment to point out what a huge task it is to do the giveaway. Every week Carl works out future book promotions with the publishers. This involves beating the information out of publishers about what books could potentially be used here. The publishers want us to promote Perl books and books on crap we don't care about. Once a book sounds good, Carl has to explain for the twentieth time that we require the author to participate - will the author be willing? It usually takes the publisher a week to get in touch with the author and get back to us. Sometimes they never do find the author! Sometimes the author wants nothing to do with us. Usually the author is okay with it, but there are scheduling concerns.... Carl works them into our schedule which can take another week. Then carl updates the book promo page to show the up coming event. Then we try to get the author to become familiar with the saloon. Lots of times they say they will and they don't. With all this going on, Carl also maintains a second list of older books and willing authors in case we have an author not show up or something. Carl modifies the authors info to reflect their author status. Since there is no built in facility for this, Carl ends up rooting through system files to get the required info. Carl tries to arrange to have the book reviewed before the promotion. When the day arrives, Carl changes ALL of the banners on JavaRanch to reflect the giveaway. For me, this usually took five or six attempts to get it to look right. Plus the changes are done in no less than six different places, each of which has its weirdness. Then Carl sends an e-mail to over 10,000 registered saloon users who say it okay for us to e-mail them. Each week Carl sees about 50 bounce messages for one reason or another and has to adjust that person's records through a little custom program we wrote - this way their account still works, but we don't send them e-mail anymore. Carl prompts the author: "You're on!" - If they don't show on the first day, we have to scramble to find the guy and find out what is going on. A couple of times the author never showed! We have to then note that we are angry with that publisher. At some point, the banners for the promotion are taken down. Gotta find them all, take them out or replace them with something else. Pick the winners, e-mail the winners, announce the winners. Get their snail mail address and see to it that the publisher gets the addresses. Sometimes he has to remind the publisher that they agreed to give away four copies of the book (and which book we are talking about). Sometimes the publisher forgets to send anything and needs to be reminded. Sometimes the package gets lost. This is just a few of the things I remember from when I did it. I know that Carl has made a lot of improvements over my techniques. And Bill Compton's program sure makes it a lot easier to pick the winner. I bet I left out half the work that Carl does.... One more thing, Carl runs point on most of our static pages and handles most of the technical issues we face here. And Carl is a volunteer. No pay and a lot of headaches. Thanks Carl.
I thought Carl doesn't have enough work with book promotion, that's why he fixes everything that need to be fixed... Half of threads in "Moderators Only" forum consists of two posts: first, some of bartenders screaming "This @#$%^ thing doesn't work!!!" and the second "I fixed it. Carl" Of course, most of things on the Ranch is fixed by themselves without Carl's signature, so he never heard "thank you"... And now this "Pittsburgh JUG"! Carl, you are a real hero
Agreed. Carl is the greatest. He's the main reason I'm hanging around this place... You da man, Carl. Kyle ------------------ Kyle Brown, Author of Enterprise Java (tm) Programming with IBM Websphere See my homepage at http://members.aol.com/kgb1001001 for other WebSphere information.
Thank you everyone. However, JavaRanch runs because of a lot of good people putting in a lot of hard work. Angela and her crew do a great job keeping the Bunkhouse up to date. No small task with books being released constantly. I really haven't had to do any thing with scheduling reviews for some time now. I just past it to the capable hands of Jane and Cindy. Thanks Ladies Jim has worked hard at trying to ensure we have sufficient number of people and good people for some time now. I took one small turn and really appreciate how much work goes into that. Thanks Jim
All the volunteers at JavaRanch deserve a huge round of applause!
WOW Carl I had no idea you did so much. I know you're the guy who's always around to fix things when they go wrong, but I didn't realise that the giveaway involved so much too. Well done and Thank You. As for me working just as hard, well i have to say I don't do as much these days mainly because I have a great team of people who do a fantastic job keeping things running smoothly over at the Bunkhouse. In fact I think they deserve some special thanks too.
Pounding at a thick stone wall won't move it, sometimes, you need to step back to see the way around.
The publishers want us to promote Perl books and books on crap we don't care about.
I care, market cares, employers care, many people, I beleive, care. I really stayed perplexed what is the problem to give away here Perl books? The presents, incentives are not what the giver/intermdiator cares but what majority is interested in.
G, This is a site about Java. There a plenty of Java books out there and no reason to promote other books. If we promoted the books that publishers wanted us to promote, we would probably be promoting diet books and romance novels. I prefer that we stay with stuff related to Java.
Originally posted by Paul Wheaton: G, This is a site about Java. There a plenty of Java books out there and no reason to promote other books. If we promoted the books that publishers wanted us to promote, we would probably be promoting diet books and romance novels. I prefer that we stay with stuff related to Java.
Looks like an opening in for 'Perl Farm' or '(/^[^\W\d_]+$/) Market' something along those lines rgds - Jim
- Jim Petersen <br />SCJP2<br />SCWCD<p>- but then again, I could be wrong...
Joined: Aug 30, 2001
Isn't Java interplatform, interformat (XML) and INTERLANGUAGE?