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Passed SCJP 5.0 : 100%

Olivier Croisier

Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 29
Hi ranchers,

I'm just back from the testing center, and I am proud to tell you that I am now certified with a perfect grade of 100% !
Woohoo !

I must especially thank Kathy and Bert for their excellent book, and for this forum. If you ever come in Paris, I owe you a drink !
Also, thank you to all the javaranch community for its support !

Some side notes on the exam :
  • The exam's drag'n'drop system is A LOT better than Whizlabs'.
  • The same for the "Review marked questions" system.
  • In my testing center, no drinking was allowed, so you must drink before.
  • Questions are unambiguous, so don't stress about not being able to understand what is really asked. This won't happen.

  • Some notes on my preparation :
  • I bought the K&B book as soon as it got published, updated it with the errata found on javaranch, read it many times and annotated it. Tip : use a yellow marker. I will help you browse the book and immediately see what is important to remember.
  • For the last 6 months, I've been analyzing it chapter by chapter, sentence by sentence, and I wrote lots of small example programs. Don't hesitate to write programs that don't work, too.
  • Last month, I took the 6 Whizlabs mock exams, and the K&B master exams last weekend.

  • And there I am : certified !

    Now I can take some rest... until the next certification :roll:

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    Arvind Mishra

    Joined: Jul 04, 2007
    Posts: 28
    Hey Olivier

    Thats awesome score.


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    Bob Ruth
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    Joined: Jun 04, 2007
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    Excellent score.

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    Mohit Chadha
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    Joined: Feb 04, 2007
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    Congratulations Olivier!
    Padma Asrani
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    Joined: Mar 22, 2007
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    Wow Olivier. congrats you touched the magic number.

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    srinivas marasu
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    congratulations Olivier! it's unforgettable score!

    Joe Harry
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    Amazing score. Congrats!

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    Rahul Bhattacharjee
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    Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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    Congratulations Olivier Croisier.
    Awesome score.

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    Rizwan Qadri
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    Joined: May 28, 2007
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    Hi, Oliviere,
    You have achieved the ultimate. Congrats.
    So K&B and Whizlab is sufficient for this exam?
    vinay janapala

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    Akhilesh Trivedi
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    Joined: Jun 22, 2005
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    Congrats Olievier! you made history.

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    Akhilesh Trivedi
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    Joined: Jun 22, 2005
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    Congrats Olivier ! you made history.
    Shoumin Li
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    Joined: Jul 06, 2007
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    It's a impossible score.
    But you did it.

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    Olivier Croisier

    Joined: Mar 14, 2006
    Posts: 29
    Thank you all

    The K&B book and Whizlab's kit are sufficient to pass this exam.

    However, I strongly advise to study the Javadoc of all classes that appear in the book : Object, Thread, all collection classes, Scanner, I/O classes, etc. Reading the Java Language Spec. can help you understand some hard topics, too (I used it to understand the subtleties of Enums, for example).

    The only thing you'll have to learn by yourself is the Thread.interrupt() method : it is not explained in the K&B book, but definitely IS on the exam.

    If I may suggest : keep the Whizlabs tests for the last month, when you feel you have mastered all the book's content. When taking them, keep a piece of paper at hand. Write down everything you're not absolutely sure about when answering the questions (ex: "what does null instanceof Object return ?"). When the test is over, find the answers and write small programs to bury them deep in your brain.

    As ever, work is the only key to success.
    sivakumar arani

    Joined: Jul 15, 2007
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    Murali Kakarla
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    Joined: Jul 11, 2007
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    Hi Olivier

    Passing with perfect score is really tremendous.
    And thanks a lot for sharing some tips with us.

    You rock!

    Muhammad Saifuddin
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    Joined: Dec 06, 2005
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    congrats Olivier Croisier,

    you have done a lot man

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    Akhilesh Trivedi
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    Joined: Jun 22, 2005
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    So when is the treat buddy???
    :roll: :roll: :roll:

    vijay mahendra
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    Joined: Jan 01, 2007
    Posts: 51
    hey .. congrats...
    thats excellent score.

    Can i have your personal mail ID.

    Congrats once again...
    Thillakan Saba
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    Joined: May 15, 2007
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    Magic Score !!!

    Raghavan Muthu
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    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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    Howdy Olivier Croisier,

    you rock!! Thats an awesome score buddy!

    Congrats! Its Party-time definitely!

    Thanks for the useful tips you have shared!

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    Forgot to wish a very good luck for the future certifications Olivier Croisier
    Olivier Croisier

    Joined: Mar 14, 2006
    Posts: 29
    Hi ranchers,

    Since I've had many private messages or emails asking me how I prepared and what advices I could give, here it is :

    The K&B book is excellent. Read it, learn it, mark it. Sleep with it, eat with it, bath with it.

    I would also recommend buying the Whizlab SCJP5 preparation kit, as it ships with 6 full mock exams. That helped me a lot. These exams are harder than the actual exam, and this is a good thing : when you get high score at them, you know you'll perform well at the actual exam. I scored 73% at the beginning, and ~90% for the last three.

    When taking the exam, I would recommend doing this :
    First, take a look at the possible answers.
    - If they do NOT include "Does not compile", you can read the code and try understand what it does. Easy.
    - If it DOES include the evil "Does not compile" answer, do the following :
    * If the code shows the import statement, verify it. Ex : the code uses "Date" but does not import java.util.* or java.util.Date -> Compilation error.
    * Verify that no static method tries to access non-static variables.
    * Verify that no final variable is reassigned a new value.
    * Verify the scope of variables. Ex: a variable is declared in a loop body, but used outside the loop.
    * Verify the constructors. Ex: Class A has only a "A(int i)" constructor, but some code tries to call "new A()".
    * Verify pretty much all the other rules that are explained in the "Exam Watch" sections of the K&B book.

    Ofter, out of the 5 or 6 possible answers to a question, you can outright eliminate 1 or 2, because they are nonsense. Then you can concentrate on the others answers.

    Write lots of small programs to test every notion in the book. Try to take 2 rules that you know and see how they interact with each other. Ask yourself "what if..." and find the answer.
    Ex : the Boolean wrapper has a constructor that takes a string. What if I pass it null ? or an empty string ? or some random string ? Is it case-sensitive ? Etc.

    Take all the required time to prepare yourself, do not rush for the exam, even if your boss wants you certified before the end of the month (or the week). You won't pass if you're not WELL prepared.

    I've been programming in Java since 2001. But it took me more than 6 months to know the entire K&B book (especially the new Java5 features : enums, generics...), and a full-time month with the Whizlabs exams to feel confident enough to take the real exam.

    But that may be different for you, depending on how much time you can spend every day to prepare, your current level, and your expectations (if you really want 100%, or just be certified with 60%...)

    Anyway, good luck
    jenita brown
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    C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!!

    Thats a wonderful Score...Keep it up,dude!
    ahmed yehia
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    Joined: Apr 22, 2006
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    Congrats, thanks for sharing your experience, good job
    saswat rashmi

    Joined: Jul 31, 2007
    Posts: 14
    well done.

    great,superb,and thumsup.

    i also want to clear the exam .tell me the fee structure of scjp exam.and which are the books you refrred.what technique you used .
    Sumit Bansal

    Joined: Feb 27, 2007
    Posts: 19
    you rocked man.
    No words to describe.

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    Darshan Kapadia

    Joined: Aug 02, 2007
    Posts: 10
    Congrats for your excellent score!!!
    Actually i have started preparing for SCJP.I am referring to Head First Java 2nd edition By Kathy and Berts.Is it enough? which other book should i refer?

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    Kai Witte
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    That's great! Congratulations!


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    Armel Moukoss

    Joined: Mar 28, 2007
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    Hi Olivier,

    Firstly congratulation for your amazing score !!! I am in paris and i would take the exam for the end of month, but i don't know which is the best exam center in Paris. Which exam center did you take the SCJP ?
    Thank you for your answer and the tips you gave in your previous post.

    Burkhard Hassel
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    Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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    OK, Olivier,

    I admit, 100% is not too bad.

    Congratulations and greetings from Dory as well:

    Charandeep Singh
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    Joined: May 06, 2007
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    Hey Oliver

    Great great score man
    hats of to you
    people like you inspire us to do more and better
    great going man
    D vaibhav deshmukh

    Joined: Aug 03, 2007
    Posts: 7
    Congratulation !!!

    You have inspired me, Hope you will continue to get the same 100% in rest of the certification you plan to take in future.

    Vaibhav Deshmukh.
    Shankar Selvaraju

    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
    Posts: 16
    Good Score...

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    deepesh mathur
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    Joined: Aug 13, 2007
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    hats off for you man!!!
    you are my ideal!!!
    Collins Mbianda
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    Joined: Aug 11, 2007
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    Congratulations olivier for your score.
    It's fantastic

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    madhu kancharla

    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    wow what score
    really great
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