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J2EE/Websphere Book Question

Paul Houser
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Does the book explain the differences between the (free) Eclipse IDE and the (expensive) WebSphere? I should would like to know the difference, because I can't find any except an exorbadant price.


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Vijay S. Rathore
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I have one more question.
Where can I find the TOC of the book?


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Ed Bicker
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Joined: Oct 14, 2003
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HEllo,
Yes the differences are minor. I use the Websphere version and find it very good. I have used both Oracle JDeveloper 9i and VisualCafe and I prefer IBM Websphere the best.
Serge Adzinets
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Joined: Nov 26, 2002
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Hi, Paul,
Do you mean Websphere Application Developer?
In fact, the book focuses on WSAD, because that is what the exam requires.
The book doesn't discuss Eclipse.


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Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Serge Adzinets:
Hi, Paul,
Do you mean Websphere Application Developer?
In fact, the book focuses on WSAD, because that is what the exam requires.
The book doesn't discuss Eclipse.

I think the question wasn't necessarily targeted towards what the exam requires, though you did answer it.
Given that Eclipse seems to be only minorly different than WSAD (sounds like NetBeans and SunONE), does anyone have enough experience with it to know if one can use the free Eclipse to study for the exam with this book?


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Rama Ituarte
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What are the requirements to pass the certification? I have used both Eclipse and WSAD and some of the differences that I have notice are the number of perspectives that ones has over the other and you get a WebSphere Server test environment with WSAD and you don�t with Eclipse. You can look at it like getting a Cadillac(WSAD) vs. a Chevrolet(Eclipse).
[ February 02, 2004: Message edited by: Rama Ituarte ]
Howard Kushner
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Originally posted by Paul Houser:
Does the book explain the differences between the (free) Eclipse IDE and the (expensive) WebSphere? I should would like to know the difference, because I can't find any except an exorbadant price.

Hi Paul,
The book is an IBM certification study guide, and is geared toward the enterprise developer role. There are plenty of Eclipse books on the market. The link below might help you understand our book a bit more if you are interested. The excerpt is the preface. We are not selling WebSphere, as the book is targeted toward those folks who have already decided to do things the WebSphere way. Look Inside
Regards,


Howard Kushner<br />IBM Certified Enterprise Developer - WebSphere Studio Application Developer V5.0<br />IBM Certified Advanced System Administrator - WebSphere Application Server V5.0<br />IBM Certified Solution Developer - Web Services with WebSphere Studio V5.1<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931182108/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Developing J2EE Applications with WebSphere Studio</a> my Certification Study Guide for IBM Test 287
Kenneth A. Kousen
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Originally posted by Paul Houser:
Does the book explain the differences between the (free) Eclipse IDE and the (expensive) WebSphere? I should would like to know the difference, because I can't find any except an exorbadant price.

Actually, the differences are enormous. Eclipse is built into WSAD, that's true, but it's just a handful of WSAD's perspectives (Java, Java Browsing, Resource, Debug, Team, maybe one or two more). WSAD has a powerful XML perspective, a server perspective for configuring and running servers inside the IDE, a profiling perspective, a data perspective for testing and modifying databases, a J2EE perspective for developing EJB's, and so on and so on.
Eclipse is a great Java tool. But if you're going to develop servlets, JSP Pages, EJB's, XML stylesheets, and message queues, test and deploy it all in a production environment, it's hard to go wrong with WSAD.
Of course, you can get a lot of that functionality using Eclipse plug-ins. I don't think that diminishes the value of the integrated development environment.


Kenneth A. Kousen, Ph.D. (assorted certs), President, Kousen IT, Inc.
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Rog Schafer
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Joined: Dec 05, 2002
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I would like to get in on the drawing, can anyone point me in that direction? We are a large enterprise and we shall from henceforth only do WebSphere for UI - JSP/EJB development. Also, is the book only useful from a certification standpoint or might it also be useful for walking through the learning curve on the way to WSAD productivity?
Thanks,
Rog Schafer
St. Paul, MN
 
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