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Oracle9i PL/SQL Developer Certified Associate

Vishal Gupta
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Joined: Jul 15, 2004
Posts: 21
Which book would your recommend for:
Exam #1Z0-007 Introduction to Oracle9i: SQL

Is it better to take:
Exam #1Z0-001 Introduction to Oracle: SQL and PL/SQL

If yes, which book do you recommend?
(I work with java and j2ee)

thanks!


SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
You should consider the ILT materials offered by Oracle University. All questions can be found from that materials.

Nick


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
michael germeys
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Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 11
Which book would your recommend for:
Exam #1Z0-007 Introduction to Oracle9i: SQL

You should look at www.sybex.com. Follow the links certification & Oracle 9i. They have an excellent book to pass this exam.
v giri
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Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 128
All questions can be found from that materials.


This is the saddest part of Oracle Certifications. If you just go through these materials, you can be zero to OCP in one week. If you really want to learn Oracle and pass OCP exams learn from Oracle Documentation and Certification books. Oracle is an ocean, yet you rarely find guys failing OCP exams.

Best wishes


-giri
Nicholas Cheung
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This is the saddest part of Oracle Certifications. If you just go through these materials, you can be zero to OCP in one week. If you really want to learn Oracle and pass OCP exams learn from Oracle Documentation and Certification books. Oracle is an ocean, yet you rarely find guys failing OCP exams.

That's why Oracle now enforce candidates to attend their training. She wants to help candidates to pass the exam through their training materials, while to make sure that those candidates can have enough hand-on experiences.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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Joined: Jun 08, 2002
Posts: 3178
Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:

That's why Oracle now enforce candidates to attend their training. She wants to help candidates to pass the exam through their training materials, while to make sure that those candidates can have enough hand-on experiences.

Nick


I feel it's some kinda marketing issue for Oracle both to earn from training and from exam...


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Nicholas Cheung
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But this only affects the new comers.

And, if we dont attend the training, we cannot get the ILT materials.

Nick
Kitty Dayal
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Joined: Jul 22, 2004
Posts: 89
Hey Nicholas,

What is ILT material, can we get it without attending the training.

Thanks
- Kits
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Nicholas Cheung
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What is ILT material

ILT stands for Instructor Led Training. The materials are distributed when you are in the Oracle class.


can we get it without attending the training.

Nope.

Nick
v giri
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Joined: Aug 27, 2002
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can we get it without attending the training.


If you have a friend who is an Oracle DBA, chances are that these materials are gathering dust in his shelves. Many companies send DBAs to these courses to consume their training budgets and make their DBAs *feel good*. No self-respecting DBA would keep them in his table for obvious reasons - they are of little value for a working DBA. I had a chance to look at them and was horrified. It seemed that somebody attended the course and then prepared OCP exam questions.

Best wishes
Nicholas Cheung
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No self-respecting DBA would keep them in his table for obvious reasons - they are of little value for a working DBA

Exams are conceptual, and thus, obvious that the courses are mainly served for exam purposes.

On the other hand, DBAs may not pass the OCP exams even they have several years of experiences, because the mismatched expectation.

That's why Oracle finally comes up with OCM, which required hand-on tests.

Nick
 
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