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Andrei Pop
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Hi,

I'd be interested if someone could let me know which certification is better to take: BEA Weblogic or IBM's. I have SCJP and SCWCD, and am preparing for SCBCD.

Of course I intend to find a job in Java after that and I want to know which path to pursue.

Thanks,
Andrei
Americo Souza
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Hi

I believe that you are taking the correct path because the J2EE and EJB certifications will give you a generic background before getting vendor specific tests.

As far as I know, BEA has the best product but IBM has a wider market share. Both vendor certifications require a completely newer approach of J2EE technology. They are more focused on practical scenarios than spec issues (SUN certifications approach)

Currently IBM is offering free vouchers for their tests. Also usually it is easier to find resources (books and mock exams) for their exams. For BEA you will be limited to their dev2dev site.


AMERICO SOUZA<br />MSCS, BSCS and BSEE <br />ACHIEVEMENTS<br />CompTIA (A+), Cisco (CCNA), Oracle (OCA - PL/SQL), Sun (Java, J2EE and EJB).<br />Currently persuing Oracle's Forms Certification
Billy Tsai
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The BEA exams r rare because not many ppl taking them and there are virtually no preparation resources available anywhere except BEA's E-Doc website and BEA Education Services.
There are lots of resources for IBM exams and lots of ppl have taken them.
But I would say WebLogic is better than WebSphere.


BEA 8.1 Certified Administrator, IBM Certified Solution Developer For XML 1.1 and Related Technologies, SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCDJWS, SCJD, SCEA,
Oracle Certified Master Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect
Andrei Pop
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Thanks for your input. Maybe it's better to go on the IBM path if there are more companies that use Websphere, as Americo said.

There are some books on BEA Weblogic though:

BEA WebLogic Books

* Mastering BEA WebLogic Server: Best Practices for Building and Deploying J2EE Applications, John Wiley & Sons 2003, ISBN 047128128X
* BEA WebLogic Server 8.1 Unleashed, SAMS 2003, ISBN 0672324873
* BEA WebLogic Server Administration Kit, Prentice Hall PTR 2003, ISBN 0130463868
* WebLogic � The Definitive Guide, O�Reilly 2004, ISBN 059600432X
* BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 Kick Start, SAMS 2004, ISBN 0672326221

This was taken from here: http://certification.bea.com/certification/study_guide/Build_Solutions.htm

Andrei
Karthik Guru
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I have not used websphere a whole lot. I have been doing my development on weblogic and find it to be very good.
I checked out the BEA 8.1 Certified Developer track and find that there is lot of emphasis on workshop , well , it is to be expected.
But i wonder how many weblogic developers out there actually use Workshop when developing on Weblogic? and how good is it.
Billy Tsai
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I dont use the workshop and I heard it sucks
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Andrei S:
Of course I intend to find a job in Java after that and I want to know which path to pursue.


I might suggest you to go for the vendor-specific exams like this, after you got a job... Until you got a job, you won't know which app server the company uses... If you got a WebLogic-related job, what will happen, a company using WebSphere accepts you? Will you reject their offer? :roll:

IMO, those vendor-specific exams are just for those who really have work experience in the related areas...

Just my 2 cents....


Co-author of SCMAD Exam Guide, Author of JMADPlus
SCJP1.2, CCNA, SCWCD1.4, SCBCD1.3, SCMAD1.0, SCJA1.0, SCJP6.0
 
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