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RUP certification

Dan Culache
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Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Posts: 70
Hi All,

Has anyone taken the IBM RUP certification test? That is IBM Test 639.
I'm interested in training resources, mock exams and any helpful information that might be available.

Thanks,
Dan
Alexander Rudloff
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Joined: Jan 11, 2005
Posts: 14
The best resource is of course the rational documentation itself. It's searchable and pretty extensive.

Outside of that, I might recommend "The Rational Unified Process Made Easy: A Practitioner's Guide to Rational Unified Process" via Amazon.. Its a pretty practical approach and easier to read than the documentation.

The exam is tough. Mainly because you'll find yourself debating on some of the answers.. Do yourself a favor and try to keep a black and white mindset with it.. There's a lot of room for what-ifs and side tracking.. I don't know if this is because of poor wording or what, but I highly advise studying. If you can come across sample questions, they do a lot to teach you the kind of wording that the test uses..

The new 2005 exam is proctored I think, the old one was entirely online. Not sure how that'll affect the actual test/studying approach..

Best of luck.


Certs: SCJP 1.4, RUP
Dan Culache
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Joined: Jan 24, 2003
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Thanks Alexander,

I have some experiance with RUP, worked with it on a couple of big projects. I also read through Kruchten's "The RUP, An Introduction" so it is not a new subject to me. I'm also trying to avoid the dry Rational documentation so thanks for your recommendation.

When did you take the RUP exam? Could you please give me an estimate of how long did it take for you to study?

Dan
Preetham Chandrasekhar
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Joined: Nov 05, 2003
Posts: 98
is the RUP exam...jus one exam?


"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is."<br /> - Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut
Peter Braun
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Joined: Feb 09, 2005
Posts: 57
Hi All,
Do you know any examples?
I found only 1 example question(!) on IBM's site.
RUP exam

There's no mock exams or samples, but why? Is this exam confidential?

Peter
Ilja Preuss
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Joined: Jul 11, 2001
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Moving to Other Certifications...


The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny - it is the light that guides your way. - Heraclitus
Axel Janssen
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I personally find the Rational tests extremly exagerated.
You need to pass 4 (four) tests to become phonky "IBM Certified Specialist for Rational Requirements Management w/Use Cases".
http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/certs/rlrcrmc3.shtml
I find this the very opposite to agile.

Axel
Nicholas Cheung
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In addition, you have to currently work in a company that is IBM Rational Partners, otherwise, even you pass all the required exams, you are NOT regarded as certified.

Nick


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Axel Janssen
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It might be easy to get that status. I have a good friend who is nice person but his strength are not specifically technical. He's a one man company and IBM Business Partner, though not Principal BP.
Peter Braun
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Why is that requirement? If you are not an employee at that type of company you are locked out of getting this exam? Not so user friendly... :-(

By the way, have any of you been applying RUP in practice?

P.
Nicholas Cheung
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Why is that requirement? If you are not an employee at that type of company you are locked out of getting this exam? Not so user friendly...


Because IBM does not want too many people to be certified in that area, and only her business partners can earn the certificates, so that the number of cert. holders are limited to increase the value of the certifications.

Nick
Peter Braun
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Then why don't they raise the difficulty level. The result would be the same without that restrictions. Or maybe it's already hard enought. :-)

Even though I'm still interested in RUP. I wonder if there's a topic for sharing RUP experience.

Peter
Nicholas Cheung
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The level of difficulty has already been raised. The passing score is 80%.

Nick
Bianca Castafiore
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Joined: Feb 22, 2005
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Sorry if this sounds a lil silly but - where and how does one register for a RUP certifcation?
Nicholas Cheung
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You can create an account at http://www.2test.com , and schedule for the exam.

Nick
Alexander Rudloff
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At the end of the day, the RUP cert isn't a killer, just not something you can overlook. I thought it was more difficult than the SCJP though. Simply because a lot of the answers feel subjective, and again, an 80% requirement vs. the low SCJP passing score. I suppose it all comes down to what you have experience with I guess.

The best book I've found was the practioners guide to rup (via amazon), but I still needed the RUP documentation to get the best study though.

Best advice I can give is to be fully aware of what artifacts come where, when, and by who. The princples themselves are pretty straight forward (iterative cycle, take advantage of the ability to customize rup instead of using everything, its designed to identify risks early, etc.)..

Artifacts and roles both require a small amount of memorization, but other than that.. It'll come down to reading a book or two and using RUP on a couple of projects to get the idea of it all.

g'luck.
Gina Mill
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Joined: Mar 13, 2005
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The IBM site does not say you must work for an IBM partner to get RUP certification. Where did you get this information? i want to take the exam but i do not work for a partner at this time>
Nicholas Cheung
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The IBM site does not say you must work for an IBM partner to get RUP certification. Where did you get this information? i want to take the exam but i do not work for a partner at this time

It is better to read the overall page of the certification before reading the details of particular exams.


Rational certification is designed to support IBM Business Partners associated with the Rational brand. Therefore only participants in the IBM PartnerWorld program are allowed to take Rational certification tests. To learn more about IBM PartnerWorld visit the IBM PartnerWorld Web site.


http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/certs/rl_index.shtml

Nick
Gina Mill
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:


http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/certs/rl_index.shtml

Nick


Thanks Nick. Next question. Do you or anyone know of a vendor neutral respected and recognized certification for Business Analyst, RUP, UML?

I don't work for a company right now and wanted to get certification to increase my marketability. Do you or anyone have any suggestions for me?

Thanks.
 
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