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Marc Wentink
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I am studying MS 70-528. I did SCJP5. (Don't ask me why I kinda changed study subject that strange... )

Now I have really tried to find a discussion forum comparable with this one like the SCJP5 and K&R. Hence a forum were you can discus the content of the Self Paced Training Kit of MicroSoft, and which is also regurally visited.

But I cannot find anything usefull. Hence, just may-be someone here can give me a link?


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Marc Peabody
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Did you take the 70-536 yet, Marc? That's usually the MS exam that people start with.

I finished the 70-536 [and Sun's SCDJWS] at the end of last year and 70-528 is my next-in-line exam. I haven't touched the book in a few weeks, but I think I'm about 1/4 of the way through and I was taking the time to do the labs for each section.

I'm not familiar with any other 70-528 specific forums, but feel free to use this forum for 70-528 as much as you want. At the very least, I'll be around for discussion.


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Marc Wentink
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I did not take the other exam first. I made that decision because:

I really did some ASP.NET programming, and not WinForm. I also have experience in JSP, CGI scripts, JavaScripting. Intranet apps in general.

I already know C++ and Java and the C# language is not such a problem.

It is legally permitted. It's not like you have to do the one before the other to be able to even do the exam. (Like SCJP before whatever other Sun Java exam.)

And because in some few messages on the internet I read, others say this was 'do-able', if that's good English.

So, I am presently studying: .NET Framwork 2.0 Web-Based Client Development Self Paced training kit by Glenn Johnsson and Tony Northrup. Are you reading the same book. I believe this is 'the' book for the exam.

Like you I have done an exam well quite recently, and now pulling myself together to start again to improve myself.

If I have a question, I will ask it here, atleast there will be a person looking at it. Although probably not as quick as with the SCJP board.
Marc Peabody
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Yes, that's the same book I'm using. It's been a little while, but I've made it through Chapters 1-3 including the labs.
Theodore Casser
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The only site I've found that has any amount of discussion on the MCTS developer exams has been techexams.net - I'm not overly thrilled with the low level of discussion there on the developer exams since most there seem to focus more on the administration end of things, but... I think MS may have some newsgroups on Usenet that focus on the exam - you might look there.

All that said, I didn't really like the Self-paced Training book from Microsoft Press when push came to shove - I found that it was "adequate", but that's hardly a ringing endorsement. *shrugs*

Since 536 got mentioned as well - Marc P., did you find the stuff I sent you any help at all? (On the other hand, if you want an argument as to why it might be beneficial to do 536 first... it's probably going to be part of the MCTS for .Net 3.5 as well...)
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SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Michael Raymond Jr.
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Originally posted by Marc Wentink:
I am studying MS 70-528. I did SCJP5. (Don't ask me why I kinda changed study subject that strange... )

Now I have really tried to find a discussion forum comparable with this one like the SCJP5 and K&R. Hence a forum were you can discus the content of the Self Paced Training Kit of MicroSoft, and which is also regurally visited.

But I cannot find anything usefull. Hence, just may-be someone here can give me a link?


i'm casually studying the 528, so you are not totally alone on this board.

also, I think it's fine to go with the 528 before 536. I've finished a few chapters myself and haven't found any reason to finish the 536 first. Just buy a c# reference book and everything will be clear as mud...


just curious, why not the scwcd first?


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Marc Wentink
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Well since I've changed jobs and no longer work in Java. I'd rather continue to work in Java, but the other job had other benefits. It was paid better for less hours, and I am a single parent, so ... et cetera.
Marc Wentink
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Originally posted by Marc Peabody:
Yes, that's the same book I'm using.


Is there any alternative, extra, book I could read apart from 'Glenn Johnsson and Tony Northrup'? It has labs and it is a enumeration of all the facts you have to learn, but it's not really written interestingly, lively, nor has it explained in the first 3 chapters much about the background, the how and why of ASP.NET.
Theodore Casser
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Wish I could say that any of the Microsoft books were 'interesting' instead of massive collections of the information you need to know for their exams. Unfortunately... such is not the case. On the plus side, though, they are fairly good guides to the exams.
Marc Peabody
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Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
Since 536 got mentioned as well - Marc P., did you find the stuff I sent you any help at all? (On the other hand, if you want an argument as to why it might be beneficial to do 536 first... it's probably going to be part of the MCTS for .Net 3.5 as well...)

I didn't make it through all of the material but I can say that it was nice to imbibe the material through a different voice to help it stick.

I planned to take the 70-536 and fail once and then use their try-it-again-for-free program so I could basically use it like a free mock exam. To my surprise, I passed the 70-536 the day I intended not to. So there was a lot of studying that, well, never happened. :roll:

Didn't you have some material written up on the 70-528 as well, Teej?

I'm probably not going to be studying the 70-528 much for a little while. I'm in the middle of teaching classes on Hibernate and Spring as well as helping to review two books... and I bought Guitar Hero III.
Marc Wentink
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Well, I am using an old book I've got as an extra information source. It's (c) 2002, and about ASP.NET 1.1, but it's very good, and much more fun to (re-)read:

MicroSoft.NET Programming, author Jeff Prosise.
Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Marc Peabody:
I didn't make it through all of the material but I can say that it was nice to imbibe the material through a different voice to help it stick.

Well, it's good to have validation that it helped. I'm thinking of selling it through Lulu in the near future, since I don't know that it's something any 'real' publisher might pick up, with Microsoft's fairly comprehensive book.

Didn't you have some material written up on the 70-528 as well, Teej?

It's about half-way there, to be honest. I was working on it, stopped to concentrate on preparing for 526 and 529, then got distracted by a bit of baby-prep outside of work hours. I could probably get it done over the next few weeks, if you'd like and would find it a help.
Marc Peabody
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I'll be starting up 528 studies again in 3 weeks, so that would be great timing. I think I'll try to make it through all of the material before sitting for the exam this time. :roll:
Theodore Casser
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3 weeks works for me, I think. I have to get some software done to a beta-state tonight/tomorrow for the FIRST robotics team I mentor (go 768!), since they're going up to Trenton for scouting before their first regional in a week... and 3 weeks puts me past our regional here in Maryland.
Marc Wentink
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I found out that the best newsgroup to ask questions about the content of the book is simply the general 'dotnet.framework.aspnet' forum.

I keep on refering to the book with the selfpaced course material, and they keep on saying 'what a bad book', but I get good answers quick.
Adrian Petrescu
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where can i find the latest [removed]. Please let me know. I need to get this exam until the end of the month.
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Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Adrian Petrescu:
where can i find [rest removed]


Considering that you had to format your post in a method to get past an explicit warning not to solicit the materials in question... why would you ask about cheating here?
 
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