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IBM Certified SOA Associate 664

Devendra Dave

Joined: Nov 24, 2004
Posts: 15
Hello all,
I was planning to take the IBM Certified SOA Associate exam 664. But from the following link I came to know that it is getting retired.

Could you please let me know is it better to take the 664 or
IBM Certified SOA Associate [2008]
Test 669, SOA Fundamentals

which is coming in October 2008.

Please let me know the guidelines links, learning material etc for 664/669

Thanks & Regards
D Dave

--<br />Devendra Dave<br />SCEA J2EE 5, TOGAF 8 Certified
Pravin Kumar
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Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 45
where did you read about 669?
Amit G Piplani
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Joined: Jul 21, 2004
Posts: 83
from ibm site, it shows that 664 is going to retire.

Pravin Kumar
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Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 45
Any idea why sample test ( which they charge $10) not working?

Devendra Dave

Joined: Nov 24, 2004
Posts: 15
This is what I have received from IBM regarding dropping 664 and coming with 669.

Devendra Dave,
Information re Test 669 (skills measured on the test, training resources, etc.) will only be available on the date in Oct. the certification will be made generally available.

The cost for Test 669 in 2008 will be $150 in developed countries, and $75 in the emerging market countries ... same as Test 664.

As the SOA technology evolves, aligning certifications will become available. Test 664 was made available in late 2006 based on 2006 technology. The certification earned as a result of passing Test 664 will be good indefinitely, but only valid for the down-level SOA technology. Test 669 will be based on 2008 technology.

Helene Untch
WW Certification Program Manager � IBM WebSphere, SOA & XML
905-413-5582 (Fax: -4751) T/L 313-5582
IBM Toronto Lab, Floor X3-X45, Dept XUC
8200 Warden Ave., Markham Ont, L6G 1C7, Canada


So Looks like they are dropping 664 and giving 669. But nothing mentioned regarding the objectives etc. Does any one knows what SOA 2008 standards they are talking about?

Devendra Dave
SCEA, TOGAF 8 Certified
byomokesh Satapathy

Joined: Sep 18, 2008
Posts: 2
I am also preparing for the same(TEST 669) . Please help me regarding the documents i need to refere. I have all redbooks mentioned on IBM site for this.

Thanks and regards.
Sudheer Anumalasetty

Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 3

The below link gives the objectives of TEST :669 SOA FUNDAMENTALS{2008]

I think 80% objectives are almost similar compared with 664.

I am planning to take it on october as it going to active,Ranchers please
post the guidelines for the preparation.

Michael Raymond Jr.
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Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 178
On your link I can't find where it says 664 will be retired.

This link shows it at the top, thouhg:

The recommended book for both tests is:

So I don't think there's any need to fret if you've read the book. Just take the 10USD online test by IBM for whichever exam you are wanting to take to test your readiness...

Scooby Snacks for everyone...<br /> <br />SCJA, SCJP 1.4
Mohamed Mabrouk

Joined: Mar 06, 2007
Posts: 28
Hi all

I have taken the test 664 a while ago, as you guys said, the new test is 80% similar to the earlier one...

I would like to point out an article on DeveloperWorks that could be of help when preparing for the exam (the article is by me actually)

Good luck
Frankey James
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Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Posts: 50
According to this link:

the exam now doesn't expire until 01/31/2009, not the end of this October.

ho, ho, ho
I agree. Here's the link:
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