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Passed exam 141

 
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Dear all,
I passed the exam 141 yesterday, with not a very good score though. I got 68%. It took me two months to prepare for the exam. I didn't have any experience in XML or any other related technology. I found this forum very helpful. Many informative messages are already available on this forum, I would not like to reiterate the same, but I would still like to write a few points which might help those who are prepairing.
1. If just starting the preparation, try to read all the messages, specially written by those who have passed the exam.
2. Personally, I found Prof XML Second Edition book very good. I read the chapters very thoroughly.
3. Besides this book, I consulted - Professional XML Scehma and XSLT by O'Reilly. There are many advanced Schema questions in the exam.
4. I got 7-8 questions from SOAP, UDDI, WSDL, XML signature and XML encryption.
5. zvon's tutotials are good. Try to go through those after reading the chapters. I also did XMLWiz mock trests but I think those tests were not very close to the actual test. Actual exam focuses more on the conceptual knowldege. So good understanding of all the topics is required. But XMLWiz helped in the sense that you feel more confident after passing those exams and you get the feel of the exam as there are not many mock tests available for XML.
6. Overall if I rate the difficulty of 141 exam and Java Programmer's exam on a 1 to 10 scale:
Exam 141 - 7
Java Programmer - 4
So those who are Certified Programmers will be able to judge the difficulty level.
7. The reasons for my low score are:
- I didn't do any practical work in XML
- Didn't do advanced topics in XML Schema
- Didn't have good ground work in SOAP, UDDI, XML signature, XML encryption.
Overall it was a good experience studying XML and all the related technologies and passing this exam is a good logical end to the efforts. Now I am planning to do some project using these technologies and then I would like to move on to Java Architect exam.
I would be seeing the messages in this forum for some more days so I would be happy to answer any questions to the best of my knowledge.
I made some very brief notes to be read on the last day before the exam. I am planning to publish the same on the forum, how can I do that?
At the end I would like to thank the organizers of Javaranch forum and all its members as this is definitely the best way to interact with other people who are prepairing and sharing information.
PS: Can anyone send me some information regarding CXE exam?
Thanks.
Vibha.
Certified Java Programmer
Certified Java Developer
Certified Developer - XML and Related Technologies
 
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Congratulations, Vibha Verma!
And thanks for your advice for taking the exam!
Can you send me your note at tongchen@programmer.net? Thanks!
 
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Well done, Vibha!
Xiaoma Wang
SCJD2 SCWCD SCJP2
 
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Congrats Vibha
 
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Congrats Vibha.
So you got 7-8 questions from SOAP, UDDI, WSDL, XML signature and XML encryption. Were those questions technical in nature. What do you suggest, best way to cover these topics.
And did you get lot of questions with code or will you say, most of the questions were conceptual in nature. And what in your view, is the best strategy to prepare for XSL and Schema questions.
 
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Congrats Vibha!
If you dont mind could you mail me your notes @
vinrajan(at)indiatimes.com
Thanks
Vinayak
 
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Hi,
Congratulations mate!!!Mtv Enjoy
Today i stated preparing for XML certification. I have 4 years exp but mostly on(C++ 2 1/2 years,Java/Ejb/Weblogic 1 1/2 years and little on Xml,Dtd,Dom and Sax abt 6 months). I'm also SCJP(95%).
Pls send me if you have any notes or suggestions relating to certification to sreedhar_gari@hotmail.com.
Thanks inadvance,
Sridhar Garimella.
 
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Congratulations Vibha and thanks a lot for your advice.
 
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot.
Zeeshan,
For SOAP, WSDL, UDDI and XML Security, I think the best course would be to read some whitepapers from the net and search for some good reading material. I studied chapters - 24, 26 from Prof XML for these topics but found them inadequate. Basically what you get is more conceptual quetions. So for that good groundwork and understanding of these topics is required.
Overall, I found that the question which were directly on syntax were pretty straight forward ( probably because I knew the syntax quite well). There were a lot of conceptual questions, some of them were confusing. So good understanding is very essential for clearing this exam.
I would be posting my notes today on this forum itself, so that all who want to read the same can get them.
Thanks.
Vibha.
 
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Congratulations Vibha !!!
 
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Thanks Shashank,
I used to read your messages in the Java Developer forum too and found them very useful. Your messages here were also very helpful.
What is your next venture?
Thanks.
Vibha.
 
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Congrats Vibha

It would be great help if you can share the notes which you had prepared.I just started preparing for the exam.I dont have any prior knowledge of XML.I am just going through some introductory articles and some tutorials from w3schoosl.com and from zovn.org.Could you please tell me which books i have to go through and is there any mock tests avilable.
Thanx and Regards
Ramesh
SCJP,SCWCD
 
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Vibha:
What is the Certified Java Programmer? Is it the
same thing as Sun Certified Java Programmer?
Thanks.
 
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Yes, Mary both are same.
Ramesh,
Actually all my notes were hand-written and these days I am making a soft copy of the same. I was expecting that it would be done by tomorrow but it is taking more time. I would surely be poting the notes by today evening or tomorrow.
Regarding the books and how to prepare for the exam, I have already mentioned that I followed Prof XML Second edition book and read a few chapters from XSLT by O'Reilly and Prof XML Schema. You need to know these topics very thoroughly.
All the best.
Vibha.
 
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I used to read your messages in the Java Developer forum too and found them very useful. Your messages here were also very helpful.
What is your next venture?


Thanks a lot for your compliments Vibha !!!
Currently I am working on completing the SCWCD, the exam for which I am taking on the 5th of next month. After that, I plan to take some design based certifications like UML etc. Also since my company has quite a few clients in Europe and Japan, they are insisting on some employees including myself completing a foreign language speaking certification so that we can interact well with current and prospective clients in their native language.
Congratulations once again and good luck in your future endeavours !!!
-Shashank
 
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