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Looks like nobody failed?

Tong Chen
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Joined: Apr 26, 2002
Posts: 1011
Sorry but I'm just curious..


Tong Chen (Seattle USA)<br />SCJP,SCWCD,SCDJWS,IBM XML,MCP.NET,MCAD.NET,MCSD.NET
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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There were folks who commented that they'd failed earlier on, when the results first came out.

Personally, it's the only time I tend myself not to comment on how I did, though - failing's not something I'm generally proud of reporting. (Though this time, I did pass.)


Theodore Jonathan Casser
SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Eduardo Rodrigues
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Joined: Jul 01, 2003
Posts: 199
I failed


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Jon Huard
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Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 2
Erm I failed .. 47% .. I went into the exam not reading a single spec or line in a book. I have however worked with webservices extensively mainly using apache axis. My main failing were basically around WSDL/UDDI/JAX.../SAAJ because I have yet to use these! The main problem I felt with the exam is that most of the nitty gritty stuff is normally abstracted out for you when dealing with webservices for example XML Schema is generated from your java classes so do you really need to know this! Oh well at least I got a sneak peek at the questions for when I really sit it.

Jon
Valentin Crettaz
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Joined: Aug 26, 2001
Posts: 7610
The main problem I felt with the exam is that most of the nitty gritty stuff is normally abstracted out for you when dealing with webservices for example XML Schema is generated from your java classes so do you really need to know this!

This is a perfectly valid and understandable concern. Personally, I don't like working with a technology if I don't understand its underlying foundations and how the whole thing works and why it works the way it works... The fact that the available frameworks and tools abstract out the details does not mean you should not understand them. We can draw a parallel with pretty much any other technology. An EJB container does most of the transactional and persistency work on behalf of the EJBs, but this does not mean that the Bean Providers do not have to understand how transaction managers and databases work, or does it? If you are out there to solve problems using IT, it is always good to have some sound knowledge of what you are using, otherwise you might not be able to take important decisions at some point...


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Jon Huard
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Joined: Aug 03, 2004
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Well I do understand XML Schemas luckily the main problem for me was around apis I dont really use, for example UDDI
peter cooke
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Joined: Mar 16, 2004
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I failed (43%) but I was not expecting to pass.
I don't do xml or web services. My company has no webservices or xml.
We barely have struts, not even an EJB.

I had only read the W3Cschools tutorials and the most of the web services tutorial. I used the free beta exam as motivation to cram study, see what I could learn in 3 weeks.

My goal is to pass the web services exam and IBM 141 xml exam by year end.


from a prue novice view of J2EE webservices from space.
How are jaxb, jax-rpc, jdom,dom, all suposed to fit together?(I guess that is the intent of the exam)


CIAO Peter M. Cooke
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 4982
I also failed with 64%. What a pretty!

Anyway, I started to prepare for the live exam last week, and hopefully, I can take it next week.

Ko Ko: Sorry that cant wait for JWebServices+ to release.

Nick


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Chengwei Lee
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Joined: Apr 02, 2004
Posts: 884
I failed too. But uptill now I still can't figure out how to check the percentage I scored. Could anyone enlighten me?


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Chengwei Lee
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Joined: Apr 02, 2004
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OK, I finally gotten my score report from prometric today. Took some time for it to fly over to Singapore.

Horrors. Shocked. I got 67%. To be precise, it was actually 67.6%. It got rounded down. Passed in all sections but didn't cleared the last hurdle.

R.x Lan
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Joined: Dec 27, 2003
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Originally posted by Cheng Wei Lee:
OK, I finally gotten my score report from prometric today. Took some time for it to fly over to Singapore.

Horrors. Shocked. I got 67%. To be precise, it was actually 67.6%. It got rounded down. Passed in all sections but didn't cleared the last hurdle.



Try again , you should get a good score!


(SCJP SCWCD SCBCD SCDJWS)
Marc Peabody
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Failed with 52%. No previous experience or much of a clue of what a web service was until a few weeks before taking exam.

What helped me do as well as I did was knowing a bit about XML and design patterns.


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Nicholas Cheung
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Horrors. Shocked. I got 67%. To be precise, it was actually 67.6%. It got rounded down. Passed in all sections but didn't cleared the last hurdle.

Cheer up!!! Let's re-take the exam together.

Nick
Chengwei Lee
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Joined: Apr 02, 2004
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:

Cheer up!!! Let's re-take the exam together.

Nick


Yep, should be retaking it. But not so early. Still got 2 exams to clear before I can start reading up on it again.
Nicholas Cheung
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I have suspended all exams becos my company wanna me to take SCDJWS as soon as possible.

Nick
Paul Michael
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Joined: Jul 02, 2001
Posts: 697
Hi Guys!

I also failed the JWS BETA with 61%.
I'm thinking of clearing the WCD first and hopefully the BCD
before considering a JWS retake.

I guess we'll just be waiting for your tips!



Congratulations to those who passed!



SCJP 1.2 (89%), SCWCD 1.3 (94%), IBM 486 (90%), SCJA Beta (96%), SCEA (91% / 77%), SCEA 5 P1 (77%), SCBCD 5 (85%)
Hulio Donovan
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Joined: Aug 25, 2002
Posts: 7
failed with 66%. but i did not prepare at all.


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Chengwei Lee
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
I have suspended all exams becos my company wanna me to take SCDJWS as soon as possible.

Nick


I see that you had passed SCDJWS already. Congrats!
Karthi Bala
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Joined: Jul 27, 2001
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I too failed becaz I didn't worked with Web Services so far.

I scored 63% and am sure that will pass in the real Exam.

Karthi


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Nicholas Cheung
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I see that you had passed SCDJWS already. Congrats


Yea~~~H. Passed for 1+ week already. When will you pass?

Nick
Tong Chen
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Joined: Apr 26, 2002
Posts: 1011
congratulations to Nick!
Chengwei Lee
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Yea~~~H. Passed for 1+ week already. When will you pass?

Nick


I hope by the end of this year. My project is killing me. Taking SCWCD in mid-September. Hoping to take SCBCD as well. Deciding between to retake SCDJWS first or take SCBCD fresh. Any comments?

Cheers!
Nicholas Cheung
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Joined: Nov 07, 2003
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Best luck for all your upcoming exams.

Waiting to here for your good news.

Nick
 
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