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Stefan Peuskens
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I an thinking of doing this exam. The way I prepared myself for the other exams was reading the right book(f.e. Head First EJB for scbcd) and doing some mock exams (f.e softscbcd or whizlabs).
Which is THE book to read for this exam and are there mock exams out there which are good. I saw that whizlabs did not have any mock exams. Are there any other good mock exam providers.
And which book is right. I want a book that I can read which covers exactly the topics of this exam. No more no less if possible. I do not want to read specs or read multiple books because that takes to much time. Please advice.
Nicholas Cheung
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Which is THE book to read for this exam and are there mock exams out there which are good.

RMH's J2EE Web Services is the best suit book for SCDJWS.


I saw that whizlabs did not have any mock exams. Are there any other good mock exam providers.

Whizlabs is going to release their mock exams.


And which book is right. I want a book that I can read which covers exactly the topics of this exam. No more no less if possible. I do not want to read specs or read multiple books because that takes to much time.

There is no such book currently, as Kathy and Bert are not going to write their HF SCDJWS, and there is no book that specific for this exam.

If you really need such a book, you may wait till the book to be released.

Nick


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Stefan Peuskens
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Ok, thx for the info sofar. The RMH book is best suited. I looked at it and it contains 900 pages. The other book for this examen only has 400 - 500 pages (Designing Web Services with the J2EE(TM) 1.4 Platform : JAX-RPC, SOAP, and XML Technologies) . Does this mean it does not contain all the necessary stuff.Or is the book not so good or madifficult to read. To my opinion 500 pages are more then enough to read.
Any ideas on when whizlabs will release their mocks?
Barbara Norway
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Hi,

Nicholas Cheung says:
There is no such book currently, as Kathy and Bert are not going to write their HF SCDJWS, and there is no book that specific for this exam.


I imagined that there would not be a HF JWS for quite some time as they are coming out with HF Design patterns next and then, well, I dunno what after that. But do you know that there will never be one for JWS?

Thanks in advance for your answer.
[ September 08, 2004: Message edited by: Barbara Norway ]

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Nicholas Cheung
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Ok, thx for the info sofar. The RMH book is best suited. I looked at it and it contains 900 pages. The other book for this examen only has 400 - 500 pages (Designing Web Services with the J2EE(TM) 1.4 Platform : JAX-RPC, SOAP, and XML Technologies) . Does this mean it does not contain all the necessary stuff.Or is the book not so good or madifficult to read. To my opinion 500 pages are more then enough to read.

Since the books focus on different aspects, which none of them are focus on the exam, and thus, they contain different number of pages.

The blueprint focus on high level of Web Services issues, and design, while RMH focus on low level of Web Services implementation.

500 pages in fact is too less for understanding Web Services. If you take a look on all related specifications, they contains more than thousands of pages.

If you dont wanna to read so much, you may consider only refer to MZ's note:
http://java.boot.by/wsd-guide

while the missing topics can be refered to RMH.

Honestly, I read 3 books to get a pass in the 2nd attemp. Thus, I dont think there are any shortcuts for passing SCDJWS without reading enough information. This is the most tough exam I have come across.


Any ideas on when whizlabs will release their mocks?

Should be around Nov or Dec 2004.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
This is the most tough exam I have come across


Then you got the most highest score among all exams you have come across...

Is that correct?


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SCJP1.2, CCNA, SCWCD1.4, SCBCD1.3, SCMAD1.0, SCJA1.0, SCJP6.0
Nicholas Cheung
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Then you got the most highest score among all exams you have come across...

Is that correct?

I dont think so.

I believe there exists some people who scored even higher.

Nick
Ken Ho
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:

I dont think so.

I believe there exists some people who scored even higher.

Nick


I think Ko Ko is asking it is the highest score among all the exams you took be4.


SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.3, SCBCD 1.3, SCMAD, SCDJWS
Nicholas Cheung
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstand that.

Nope, the score of SCDJWS is not the highest among exams I took.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
Oh, sorry, I misunderstand that.

Nope, the score of SCDJWS is not the highest among exams I took.

Nick


In which exam did you get more than 97%? Don't say that you get 100% in one of the certificates that you listed in your signature....
Nicholas Cheung
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In which exam did you get more than 97%?

You make a guess?


Don't say that you get 100% in one of the certificates that you listed in your signature....

I will tell you after you make the guess.

Nick
Ken Ho
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My guess is SCJP of 98%! :roll:
[ September 10, 2004: Message edited by: Ken Ho ]
Nicholas Cheung
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Nope.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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I guess SCJP 1.4 (SAI) with 99% :roll:
Nicholas Cheung
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Still nope.

Nick
Ke Liu
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I guess SCJP 1.2 with 100% :roll:


SCJP,SCWCD,SCBCD
Arun Prasath
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Nicholas,
please tell.. I think, its enough of guessing..
considering the number of certifications that you have taken and the number of assumptions ranchers can make, the probability that we could predict the result is very less..


SCJP 1.4, SCDJWS , SCJA<br />I can do ALL things through CHRIST who strengthens me.
Nicholas Cheung
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It is not difficult to guess in fact.

You guys focus on Java-related certs, however, my highest score obtained was from Oracle9i 1Z0-031 Fundemental I, with 100%.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
It is not difficult to guess in fact.

You guys focus on Java-related certs, however, my highest score obtained was from Oracle9i 1Z0-031 Fundemental I, with 100%.

Nick


Oh! we cannot see it, cos it's in OCA track, isn't it? You just list your OCP, in which OCA is living...
Nicholas Cheung
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However, OCA is the sub-certificate of OCP.

Without OCA, I cant get OCP.

Nick
Steve Yu
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nicholas, it seems you have collected all these certificates. I admire your achievement certainly. Do you mind if I ask you a question --- what kind of position do you work at ? guess you must be a very top senior technical guy ? and guess you must make lot of money , ha ?
Nicholas Cheung
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Do you mind if I ask you a question --- what kind of position do you work at ? guess you must be a very top senior technical guy ? and guess you must make lot of money , ha ?

Only people who DONT know technical can earn a lot of money.

And only people who wanna keep his job require certificates.

Nick
Ko Ko Naing
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Are you in the same company until now since your graduate? or is it the second or the third one?
Nicholas Cheung
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Are you in the same company until now since your graduate? or is it the second or the third one?

This is the fifth one.

Nick
 
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