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any good study guide for SCDJWS?

teddy chan
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hi ranchers, I want to take scdjws exam. any good study guide book for it??
help please!!!
Nicholas Cheung
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You might consider RMH's J2EE Web Services, and SUN's Web Services Blueprint.

By the way, your name seems violate the Naming Policy, please change it accordingly in My Profile.

Nick


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Fisher Daniel
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Hi,
You can follow online course at Sang Shin's WebServices Course

Hope this helps

thanks
daniel
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by teddy bear:
hi ranchers, I want to take scdjws exam. any good study guide book for it??
help please!!!


teddy,
Max Habibi's SCDJWS Study Guide is coming in March... So that will be the first exam study guide for this exam... You can wait for that...


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Bharat Ruparel
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Amazon is showing the publication date as 29th July! It could be a long wait!!!


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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Bharat Ruparel:
Amazon is showing the publication date as 29th July! It could be a long wait!!!


Should we believe the publisher or Amazon? :roll:
Bharat Ruparel
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May be Valentin can get this from Max and find out for us?
In the meantime, I find Mikalai's Study Guide very helpful in addition to J2EE Web Services by Monson-Hafael.
Valentin Crettaz
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May be Valentin can get this from Max and find out for us?
I'll try to get back to you guys with some satisfying answer


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Sudhansu Pati
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MZ's Guide is very good and tailored towards the SCDJWS test. I took the test this week and can't think of any question that was out of MZ's Guide. RMH book is also good, but it was hard for me to understand the UDDI and JAXR form RMH. There are some simple diagrams in MZ's guide which helped me a lot to understand the concepts easily.


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Bharat Ruparel
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I'll try to get back to you guys with some satisfying answer

Hello Valentin,
Any luck?
Bharat
Valentin Crettaz
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I have been travelling the last few days... I'll get this on top of my todo list and I'll let you guys know when I have some news

Sorry for the delay.
Max Habibi
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I'm sorry to say that the book is on hold at the present. When we wrote the exam, the blueprints and RMF's book were our guiding lights.

All best,
M


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Bharat Ruparel
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Someone please post the URL for the BluePrints. I have RMH book, but not the BluePrints.
Thanks.
Bharat
Mike Gallagher
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Bharat,

Here is the link..

It is the first item in the 'Some Recommended Reading' section on the JavaRanch SCDJWS Links page.

The title is "Designing Web Services with the J2EE(TM) 1.4 Platform : JAX-RPC, SOAP, and XML Technologies".

- mike g.
Bharat Ruparel
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Thanks Mike.
Regards.
Bharat
Tien Duong Nguyen
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Can anyone tell me what "RMH's J2EE Web Services" stands for ?

What is the full name of this book ?

Regards,


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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Tien Duong Nguyen:
Can anyone tell me what "RMH's J2EE Web Services" stands for ?

What is the full name of this book ?

Regards,


The fullname is J2EE Web Services and its author is Richard Monson-Haefel(RMH)...
Bharat Ruparel
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Mikalai needs to step-up and finish his Web Services Guide and the Quiz, and package them in a book. I gladly paid him $12.00 for it and I would have paid 3 times as much for a finished book with ALL the topics addressed and the Quiz section expanded. As it is, I am using his Guide and Quiz extensively to prepare for this certificate.
Bharat
Ram Dhan Yadav K
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Originally posted by Sudhansu Pati:
MZ's Guide is very good and tailored towards the SCDJWS test. I took the test this week and can't think of any question that was out of MZ's Guide.


What is MZ's guive, where is it available?


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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Ram Dhan Yadav K:


What is MZ's guive, where is it available?


It is there!
Gaurav Chikara
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MZ's guide is very good but it assumes that we have a good exposure to WebServices .Is there any Specifications by Sun Microsystems which can give us an indea so that we understand MZ's book thoroughly
I reas first chapter but found diff to memorise the concepts
Does any one knows if MZ's guide is good for noivices also
:roll:


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Bil Bob
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Hi Max

i was just wondering what the Estimated date is for your book's release

Thanks


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Anselm Paulinus
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Hi Max:
Mcgraw-hill's web site is actually showing the book was published on 03/01/2005. What is going on here?
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Anselm Paulinus:
Hi Max:
Mcgraw-hill's web site is actually showing the book was published on 03/01/2005. What is going on here?


The thing is that McGraw-Hill site has not been updated yet... As Max has mentioned above, we need to wait a bit for the book to be published... Well, according to Amazon, the book will be available through its site on July 29, 2005.... So let's just wait for that...
Srini Madala
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Now this book is available at McGrawHill site


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Peter Sin
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Originally posted by Srini Madala:
Now this book is available at McGrawHill site


The bad news is the published date is further postponed.

The following information comes from McGrawHill website.

SCWSD Sun Certified Web Services Developer for Java Study Guide
By: Habibi, Mehran
ISBN: 0072259523
DOI: 10.1036/0072259523
Format: WW 656 pages
Pub Date: 2005-12-31
Copyright: 2006
Edition:1
$59.99 USD
Product Line:McGraw-Hill Osborne Media McGraw-Hill Osborne Media
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Marco Lombardo
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I find two links:


The first is on (mcgraw-hill) 31-01-2006 and the second (amazon) 29-07-2005 .
Which is correct?
Is there an official contact to ask for this official published date?
Thanks!


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Kin Ng
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Amazon replied that they actually have stocks of the study guide now, but they just can't sell them until the official publication date, which is July 29, 05
Peter Sin
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Originally posted by Kin Ng:
Amazon replied that they actually have stocks of the study guide now, but they just can't sell them until the official publication date, which is July 29, 05


This is a good news.
Jesus Angeles
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that book has got to be thick, very thick
Billy Tsai
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what is happening? its nearly september now


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Peer Reynders
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That guide has become the proverbial carrot.

I remember it being announced for end of March 2005, now its "predicted" for February 2006, so there's plenty of time for further delays. They haven't gotten around to updating the cover image from SCWSD to SCDJWS and to reflect the new authors. SCDJWS only covers WS-I Basic Profile 1.0a - by the time that guide comes out it may be time to update the SCDJWS. And there is no guarantuee that the guide will be good, complete and comprehensive. So it seems the SCDJWS Links and especially Val's Specs-Objectives Mapping are the way to go. So I wouldn't wait unless you have something better to do.
R.x Lan
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"That guide has become the proverbial carrot", I like thus words!


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Peer Reynders
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Release Date update on
Sun Certified Developer for Java Web Services Study Guide (Exam 310-220)
Its release date is now 2006-04-30; May 2006.

Frankly, judging by the few SCDJWS score reports on the "Sun Certifcation Results" forum, I'm starting to wonder whether there is actually a large enough market to make a guide like this viable.
Billy Tsai
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well that is still a very long time away and is it worth the wait for that long ?
Peer Reynders
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Originally posted by Billy Tsai:
Is it worth the wait for that long ?


Personally, I don't think so, especially as there is no guarantee that it is going to be useful. However, a few people seem to be interested in the guide.
Peer Reynders
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Release Date update on
Sun Certified Developer for Java Web Services Study Guide (Exam 310-220)
Its release date is now 2006-10-01; October 2006.

As for the much requested "Head First Web Services" please refer to the following threads:
Head First UML & Patterns

Originally posted by Bert Bates:
...
SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list
...


Head First book for SCJA
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
...there are a couple of issues with the web services exam:

1 - It's not as popular as the SCJA
2 - We don't like web services very much. We helped Sun in the early planning stages for their course and with the exam objectives - it was a nightmare! Planning that normally takes a couple of weeks, took almost 6 months. Perhaps this set of technologies has started to settle down a bit, but they have always seemed to me to have a kind of amorphous, hard-to-pin-down sort of feeling about them.
3 - It would have to be a bigger than usual HF book - and they're already big - so it's a much bigger risk in that way too.
Anyway, we are always waiting and watching for th right time...


And I can see where Bert is coming from. The exam objectives cover a large number of diverse, yet interdependent technologies and specifications - and all that so you can design and develop what the Blueprints calls the "service interaction layer" (and the equivalent on the client side) - it's about interfacing that's it! And we're not even talking about the second generation of standards (WS-*).

Anyway, you may be interested in the articles of one of the co-authors of the upcoming certification guide. The first one is interesting because it echos a lot of the design issues that are raised in the Blueprints. Architect Struts applications for Web services

The second one doesn't have anything to do with the SCDJWS - but is does show the application of one of the second generation standards: WS-Choreography. Web services choreography in practice.
Peter Sin
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Originally posted by Peer Reynders:
Release Date update on
Sun Certified Developer for Java Web Services Study Guide (Exam 310-220)
Its release date is now 2006-10-01; October 2006.


Forget this book. Have you noticed this phrase "copyright: 2007"? This book won't be published. Go ahead with other materials instead of this future-released book.
wise owen
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Yes. We have a long time to wait for it.
[ February 09, 2006: Message edited by: wise owen ]
Peer Reynders
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Originally posted by Peter Sin:
Have you noticed this phrase "copyright: 2007"?


I think its standard practice for books published later than September to carry the copyright of the following year. At least they didn't wait to the last minute to let the world know.

Anyway, I wasn't suggesting that anyone should wait. Regularly posters are eager to get their hands on this book and under the impression that release is imminent. I thought I'd bump this thread to remind everybody of its "long history".

Anybody interested in this thread should have good look at the materials already mentioned, including Mikalai Zaikin's SCDJWS Study Guide and of course the SCDJWS Links in general.
[ February 09, 2006: Message edited by: Peer Reynders ]
 
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