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SCDJWS for Java EE 5

Dibbo Khan
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Joined: Dec 19, 2004
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I have decided to post this question in this forum.

As I have read in the SCWCD forum, the SCWCD may not be updated for Java EE 5 but the SCBCD exam certainly will.

But about the SCDJWS, since the Java Web Services API is completely different between Java EE 5 and J2EE 1.4, will there be a new SCDJWS for Java EE 5.

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Peer Reynders

Joined: Aug 19, 2005
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At this point anything is conjecture.

The SCBCD 1.3 went live in August 2003 and it also is the easiest to update as it is only concerned with the Enterprise JavaBeans 3.0 (JSR 220) specification which includes the Java Persistence API.

The SCDJWS went live in July 2004 and is much more difficult to update as there are so many specifications to consider and possibly more specifications to add. And the SCDJWS was a royal pain to create in the first place (Head First book for SCJA)
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
We helped Sun in the early planning stages for their course and with the exam objectives - it was a nightmare! Planning that normally takes a couple of weeks, took almost 6 months

Judging by the traffic in the forums I'd say that there is more interest in the SCEA certification than there is in the SCDJWS, so the SCEA may actually get updated before the SCDJWS. Also the changes in web services technology are much more evolutionary than revolutionary so the SCDJWS is still testing a good spectrum of basic knowledge even though the specs tested aren't the most current. Furthermore the development of web services technology is still far from plateau-ing, so any update will be (again) relatively quickly perceived as "antiquated" .
All these factors give Sun the incentive to delay updating the SCDJWS for as long as possible � possibly into the next Java EE (6) version.
Valentin Crettaz
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My personal opinion is very close to what Peer said.
Thanks Peer

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Theodore Casser
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I also tend to agree with Peer - SCDJWS is one of the newer exams and probably lower in visibility and need to update. (SCJP is probably the exception to the rule of looking at the "older" exams first, since it's the most frequently taken Java exam in the series.)

However, I think that we'll probably see an update to SCDJWS sooner rather than later, with the changes that came wrt annotations and the like... so who knows, really...

Theodore Jonathan Casser
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Michael Valentino
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Joined: Nov 01, 2005
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Whether the exam is updated for Java EE 5 or not, I still think this is one of the best certifications to obtain. Though the JEE 5 web service API will be much different than the J2EE 1.4 API, most srvices for a good while will be developed in J2EE 1.4 due to the fact that The industry will take a long while to convert to JEE 5. Not only that, but with the differences in SOAP 1.1 and 1.2, and WSDL 1.1 and 1.2, You're looking at HUGE interoperability problems even between 2 java apps: one running 1.4 and the other running JEE 5.
Web services and SOA is moving at the speed of light, while platform and enterprise upgrades are moving at the speed which business allows. I think it will be a while before Java EE 5 based Web Services will even play a part in this arena. With that, I'm in no rush to see a SCDJWS for Java EE 5. It would be useless as no one would be using it.

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Arun Prasath
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Joined: May 23, 2007
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I want to learn JEE 1.5 Web Service end to end.

Could anyone let me know where can i find some online tutorial to refer to Web Service.?

Thanks in advance.
Meherdad Bomanbehram
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Joined: May 28, 2007
Posts: 142

Arun Prasath wrote:
I want to learn JEE 1.5 Web Service end to end.

Could anyone let me know where can i find some online tutorial to refer to Web Service.?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Arun ,
This is the link I am using it might be of use to you too

All the best
Meherdad Bomanbehram
I agree. Here's the link:
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