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Which Book to use ?

Vignesh Murali Natarajan
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Joined: Jul 24, 2006
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Hi All,
I am planning to take up SCDJWS in the near future(2 months from now). Could somebody suggest me on which book to use.
Any help in this regard would be of a great favour to me.

Thanks,
Vignesh Murali N


ThanQ,
Vignesh Murali N
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m ka
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Joined: Mar 21, 2007
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I am also look for such a book but have not found one.

If you are please respond with the best book around.


mk
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nitin pai
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Joined: May 30, 2006
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Hi friends, Since these questions are very frequent I have made a detailed introduction on how to go about preparing for SCDJWS.
Please see the links in my signature.

Cheers!



Vignesh Murali Natarajan
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Joined: Jul 24, 2006
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Thank You Nitin Pai...
Your answer was really useful and you have got me out of a quick sand situation..I would be taking up the EJB certification nnext week, after which I'd follow your guidelines for SCDJWS.

Thank you so much...

Vignesh Murali N
David A Smith
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Joined: Mar 19, 2004
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Those 3 step links are very good. I wish I had checked here before preordering the McGraw-Hill SCJWS Study Guide which looks like isn't going to be released until late July.

I also just took advantage of the Free Retake offer that Sun is running and ordered a voucher so now I've got to buckle down and start studying!

Dave
Faris A Saduli
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Retake is NA in India.
Bob Nedwor
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Thank you, Nitin Pai!


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ravi janap
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Hi

Most of the people in this forum have voted for this book:

J2EE Web Services (Paperback) by Richard Monson-Haefel

I placed order for this book with amazon yesterday.

Thanks

-- Ravi


SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA
Darrel Su
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Joined: Sep 09, 2007
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I am looking for a book too.
this book was published in 2003. Is it still good enough?
Mikalai Zaikin
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Originally posted by Darrel Su:
I am looking for a book too.
this book was published in 2003. Is it still good enough?


Yes, the book is still good for the test, because the test was released in 2004 and was not updated since that time.

regards,
MZ


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Hrushikesh Deshmukh
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Joined: Jul 22, 2007
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Hi Guys,

I am preparing for SCDJWS but not able to find a good book for it.

My experience is that in most of the web services books including the Suns tutorial none of the examples or source code run as expected and adds to more confusion.I just dont want to pass the exam for the sake of getting one more certification.

I used Kathy Sierra and Bert Book for SCJP 5 and it really helped me.Is there any book like that in the market for SCDJWS?

Can anybody help?


Thanks and Regards,<br /> <br />Hrushikesh<br />SCJP 1.5
Peer Reynders
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Joined: Aug 19, 2005
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Originally posted by Hrushikesh Deshmukh:
I used Kathy Sierra and Bert Book for SCJP 5 and it really helped me. Is there any book like that in the market for SCDJWS?


No, there isn't.

You are going to have to slug it out with:
  • J2EE Web Services (RMH; Richard Monson-Haefel) (amazon US)
  • Designing Web Services with the J2EE(TM) 1.4 Platform: JAX-RPC, SOAP, and XML Technologies on-line HTML PDFs (amazon US)
  • Mikalai Zaikin's Free SCDJWS 1.4 Study Guide (MZ's Guide)


  • See also:
    SCDJWS Links
    Which Book to use?
    Preparing for SCDJWS.. Please help
    SCDJWS Resources
    Darrel Su
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    Joined: Sep 09, 2007
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    I would like to wait a little bit longer for next update.
    JAX-RPC is considered legacy API now.





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    Peer Reynders
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    Originally posted by Darrel Su:
    I would like to wait a little bit longer for next update.
    JAX-RPC is considered legacy API now.


    Only in organizations that already use Java EE 5 or Axis 2 in their architecture. Many are still stuck in J2EE 1.4 (or prior) or still use Axis 1.x and the like.

    Even if your are lucky enough to work in a progressive environment - some of your trade partners may not and you may have to help to overcome the limitations of their "legacy environment". "The problem is on your end" doesn't encourage good business relationships...

    And if you have a look at the rumour of the updated exam:

    basically said that it is likely to be around the first of the year and that many other exams need exams need updating first.

    So there is no firm date and the SCDJWS update has a fairly low priority - for example the SCEA is in much more desperate need of an update. And even once the SCDJWS is updated it will be probably be initially more difficult to prepare for it than it is already to prepare for the current version.

    The true value of the exam isn't in the (legacy) Java API and configuration sections. It is in the non-Java sections: XML, XML Schema, SOAP, WSDL, web services security, web services design, WS-I Basic interoperability. This will give you enough of a background to understand what is currently going on in the WS-* space.

    You'll have a basis to truly learn about service-orientation through sources like:
    SOA Principles of Service Design (amazon US)
    Service-Oriented Architecture (SOA): Concepts, Technology, and Design (amazon US)
    (which have nothing to do with Java)

    When I passed Microsoft's Exam 70-320: Developing XML Web Services and Server Components with Microsoft Visual C# .NET and the Microsoft .NET Framework I still didn't know anything about web services. Sure I knew how to create a stub from a WSDL, expose a method with the [WebMethod()] attribute, that SOAP messages could have headers, that there are SOAP faults. It wasn't until passing the SCDJWS that I started to understand what web services are all about - and that understanding did not come from the Java web services APIs or configurations. Therefore I'm not all that impressed with most of the JAX-WS annotations. They are still web service magic pixie dust to me.

    The fact is that web services have little to do with Java - Java just happens to be one of the options that you have when you are implementing one. The real web services issues have little to do with Java.
    Lalit Bansal
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    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    Hi Nitin,

    Thanks for the 3 step success links.

    I'm bit confused regarding the RMH book. The snapshot that you have given on "Study material and resources" link is different from what I've searched on the net. I searched for "J2EE webservices, by Richard Monson Haefel" and have found the following book(please visit this link):

    http://www.sapnaonline.com/MoreInfoBK.aspx?lcID=EBK0113992

    Could you kindly confirm if they refer to the same book or not.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Vignesh Murali Natarajan
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    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
    Posts: 65

    Hi Lalit,
    The book that yoo are referring is in deed the correct book and is the Indian reprint(Pearson Edition) of the original version. As you could see the yellow bar reading "Low Price Edition - LPE". The rate is also in INR

    Thanks,
    Vignesh Murali N
     
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