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Please advise the order to take SCBCD , SCWCD, SCDJWS

Jithu Joijoide
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Joined: May 14, 2001
Posts: 17
Hello all,

Yesterday I passed my SCJP with 91% and planning to continue with next level of certification and then proceed with SCEA.

I liked SCDJWS and thought of taking that next. But require advise from you all whether it is the preferred path or do I need to do SC[B|W]CD before going ahead for SCDJWS ?

What is the usual advised path ?

Thanks and Regards
Jithu
[ November 05, 2007: Message edited by: Jithu Joijoide ]
Peer Reynders
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Joined: Aug 19, 2005
Posts: 2906
Strictly speaking you don't need to take the SCBCD or SCWCD before the SCDJWS. You don't even need the SCJP to take the SCEA.

I'd say the SCBCD is the easiest, followed by the SCWCD - the SCDJWS is harder than either of them because it covers a lot more ground. Having taken the SCBCD and SCWCD there are a few bits that will be easier - however either certification has a lot more material that has no relevance toward the SCDJWS.

SCDJWS J2EE 1.4 covers a little bit of EJB 2.1 Stateless Session Beans and EJB deployment descriptors which the SCBCD J2EE 1.3 would also cover (no idea about SCBCD Java EE 5 EJB 3.0). SCDJWS J2EE 1.4 covers a little bit about the Servlet API 2.4 and servlets deployment descriptors which are also covered in the SCWCD J2EE 1.4.

Moving directly from the SCJP to the SCDJWS can be a bit of a shock as the available preparation materials for the SCDJWS are limited. There is basically no choice and a sizable volume.

SCDJWS passed

The certification was hard. ... Also it was the hardest certification, even harder than SCEA.


See also:
SCDJWS Links
Preparing for SCDJWS.. Please help
Which Book to Use?
SCDJWS Resources
Which is the most suitable application server to prepare for SCDJWS?
http://techtracer.com/category/scdjws/

Wait for the next SCDJWS?
Wait for the next SCDJWS? (II)
JAX-RPC vs. JAX-WS


"Don't succumb to the false authority of a tool or model. There is no substitute for thinking."
Andy Hunt, Pragmatic Thinking & Learning: Refactor Your Wetware p.41
Jithu Joijoide
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Joined: May 14, 2001
Posts: 17
Superb reply... and thank you so much for the links... this forum is rocking ... because of people like you...

thanks
Jithu
Jithu Joijoide
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Joined: May 14, 2001
Posts: 17
Hi Peer,
Just wanted to say thanks for your input.

Today I passed SCDJWS with 97% and all that I used to prepare were
1. RMH
2. MZ guide
3. MZ quiz (Thanks a ton MZ, keep up the good work)

I wanted to go through Blue prints too but didnt have enough time to brush it. I feel the only improtant thing from Blue prints which is not in RMH is the web services layers and their demarcation and fuctionaity. Which is sufficiently covered in MZ quiz.

I did try xyzws.com mock but for some reason didnt like it and stopped it with one mock exam and used that time to go through MZ guide and quiz once again.

Hope this info helps for new takers for exam.

One advise I would like to say any one taking this exam is, dont spend too much time as you might feel that the sylabus is exhaustive. And if you finish RMH and MZ that is sufficient. The missing things in RMH like security, JAXB are covered in MZ guide.

Thanks to God ( for giving me question from what I read) , MZ and Peer.

Thanks and Regards,
Jithu
Mikalai Zaikin
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Joined: Jun 04, 2002
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Originally posted by Jithu Joijoide:
Hi Peer,
Just wanted to say thanks for your input.

Today I passed SCDJWS with 97% and all that I used to prepare were
1. RMH
2. MZ guide
3. MZ quiz (Thanks a ton MZ, keep up the good work)

...
Thanks to God ( for giving me question from what I read) , MZ and Peer.

Thanks and Regards,
Jithu


Congratulations Jithu !

Great score !

regards,
MZ


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Peer Reynders
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Joined: Aug 19, 2005
Posts: 2906
Congratulations Jithu! Great score especially considering your preparation timeframe.

Other candidates would probably like to know how many hours in total you spend on your SCJP and SCDJWS preparations (to get a comparison) and what your pre-existing experience level with Java (for the SCJP) and Java Web Services was.
Joe Harry
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Joined: Sep 26, 2006
Posts: 9243
    
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Great score within a short time frame. Congrats!


SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 - Hints for you, SCBCD Hints - Demnachst, SCDJWS - Auch Demnachst
Did a rm -R / to find out that I lost my entire Linux installation!
arunesh kumar
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 1
Jithu, congratulation on your excellent performace in such a short span.

I just have passed scjp. I am too looking for scdjws. But i don't have any working experience on web services.
Is it feasible for me to clear this exam?
Can you give me your massenger id to seek some more tips.
Thanks in Advance.........
Satish Kumar
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Joined: Oct 16, 2006
Posts: 84
Hi Jithu,

Can you please let us know the no of hours spent for preparation and Also your level of expertise with webservice's before starting preparing for scdjws
inr mohan
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Joined: May 11, 2005
Posts: 61
Hi All,

In the below list.

1. RMH
2. MZ guide

What is RMH, please explain. (It is a book?)

Thanks in Advance.
Gaurav Agnihotri
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Joined: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 35
Its a book titled "J2EE Web Services" by Richard Monson-Haefel.

Check out more info at SCDJWS FAQ


Gaurav Agnihotri<br />SCJP, SCDJWS, IBM Six-Sigma Yellow Belt
inr mohan
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Joined: May 11, 2005
Posts: 61
Thanks Gaurav, for the response.
 
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