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shivani anand
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Joined: Dec 28, 2000
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Please anyone help me . I've passed my SCJP and now I am confused what to do next. Right now job market is bad and want to do some certification that will make me hot in market.
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Rahul Mahindrakar
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Joined: Jul 28, 2000
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If you can specify where you are presently located (the country) i think someone can help you out.
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shivani anand
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Joined: Dec 28, 2000
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Right now I am in US. Doing which certification/course right now will help me.
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Bidyut Padhi
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Joined: Sep 07, 2000
Posts: 121
Hi
Shivani
I will suggest you to start preparing for Sun certified Enterprise Architecture .But at present It is not easy to get a Break with simple SCJP.
As you know the present time is moving arround Distributed Technology .
You have to be master in these areas.
Keep update your self.If You are in java then be a master of it in the various areas.Do not change the Path what ever the situation.
I hope this will help u.
regards
Bidyut
Srivastava Rahul
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Joined: Feb 19, 2001
Posts: 4
Hi Shivani,
I will suggest that you should evaluate yourself. If you are more oriented towards coding, then Java Developer exam will help you. If you are more oriented towards Designing, then, Java Architext exam will help you. This is only if you want to stick to Java, which I recommend you should.
Regards,
Rahul.
shivani anand
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Thanks, for replying. I am trying to prepare for java architect. But, is it true that java is no more in demand. I know C++ also but I don't think their is any certification for that.
shivani
Mark Herschberg
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Joined: Dec 04, 2000
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There are no certifications that will make you a hot commodity. Only experience can do that. Rather than go for certification, try doing some independent projects. You can use the same technologies you would study for certification. I'd much rather hire someone who said "I did a porject which used <foo>, let me show it to you," than someone who says "I passed a test on <foo>."
--Mark
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Andrew Shafer
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Joined: Jan 19, 2001
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This probably isn't the right forum, but. . .
First, how is the job market bad? Bad compared to what?
http://www.dice.com lists some 25K+ jobs in the US with Java as a keyword.
Having no experience can be a disheartening position. You can't expect to land the first job you try to get, regardless of your skills and abilities, but there are jobs available.
Further, you don't get hired for being good at something, you get hired because a person made a decision. You multiply your marketability if you improve your people skills.
Second, how is Java no longer in demand?
I really don't see any basis for this. If Java isn't in demand, what is?
Personally, I think Java is on the rise and won't peak for awhile especially things like JINI/RMI, but that is just opinion.
Finally, if you KNOW C++ and are java certified, you don't really need another certificate, you need to spend a day writing a good resume. Even without experience, if you really know your stuff someone will give you a job. This might not be your dream job, but with your foot in the door, you have many more options.
Everyone had a time when they didn't have experience.
Andrew

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Laojar Chuger
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Originally posted by shivani anand:
I know C++ also but I don't think their is any certification for that.
shivani

http://www.brainbench.com is doing C++ certification right now.
Although it is not like a certification from Sun/IBM/MS, it is anyway.
Kameswari Jyosyula
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Joined: Feb 20, 2001
Posts: 39
Hi Shivani,
Good to know that u've started preparing for Architect exam.
U said Java is no longer in demand - i beg to disagree here.U may be finding the job market dull(if you are through a small consultant/head hunter).Well!That may be because, now the advanced concepts of Java are in demand now and also the companies are no preferring quality candidates than those who say'i know java'.Since you have real wrold experience, just rewrite your resume and as others suggested do a small project at home which you can show to your prospoective employers.
A certification will help you gain knowledge(since u'd read more books),it may also help you get an interview - but its only your experience that will land you a job AND help you sustain in that.

Originally posted by shivani anand:
Thanks, for replying. I am trying to prepare for java architect. But, is it true that java is no more in demand. I know C++ also but I don't think their is any certification for that.
shivani

shivani anand
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Joined: Dec 28, 2000
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Thank you everyone for replying my queries.
shivani
 
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