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SCJP,SCJD,SCEA Part I and they are shifting me to .NET

Vivek Viswanathan
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Joined: Mar 03, 2001
Posts: 350
I guess most of you guys should be knowing me by now - I just passed my SCEA Part I , about a month back - thanks to this site.
I have been working in Java for almost 1.5 years, and now I have been shifted to .NET tecnologies in my comopany. I have no idea if should be happy or sad.
Any suggessions on this one ???
Vivek Viswanathan

Vivek Viswanathan SCJP 1.2, SCJP 1.6,SCJD,SCEA,SCWCD,IBM-484,IBM-486,IBM-141,Ms.NET C# 70-316,SCMAD, LPIC-I
umesh atada

Joined: Jun 14, 2001
Posts: 25
I don't understand why your company is doing such a thing.
There is so much of requirement of SCEA.
Making you learn .NET is wasting your present skill set.
Since , once u are .NET you may loose track of latest technology in J2EE.

Sergei Voropay
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Joined: Feb 20, 2001
Posts: 31
My philosophy is to avoid morons at the workplace like a plague at all cost -- just leave the company, they don't deserve to have you. Who knows, next day they might ask you to wipe the floor and clean ash trays... ;-)
Best regards
Vivek Viswanathan
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Joined: Mar 03, 2001
Posts: 350

The reason that they are moving me to .NET is because the company wants to start a competency center in .NET.
The worst part is that I have allready been working in Java using EJB's for the last 6 months and using JSP and Servlets for 1.5 years.
I dont feel that there are any good jobs for Java here in India , Bomaby

Vivek Viswanthan
Syed Hussain
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Joined: Feb 06, 2001
Posts: 55
I am sure many of you wont agree with me but you could give .NET a try , find out what it is.I dont want you to switch to it completly.At least give it a try.After all , it seems to me that you are at an Architect level and you need to have an understanding of the .NET architecture and compare it with the J2EE Architecture.
Maybe my approach is wrong.Anyway , its just my personal point of view.
umesh atada

Joined: Jun 14, 2001
Posts: 25
I don't belive there is no good companies in for java in India
Good example is SUN & iPlanet in Bangalore , or even oracle & ibm are doing good work in bangalore.
Amanda Waite
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Joined: Feb 04, 2001
Posts: 56
Hi Vivek,
You could see it as a good opportunity. The problem that I've always had with being a Java Architect is that architects need to work with *all* available technologies unless your client is someone who is totally anti Java or anti M$. The opportunity to learn .NET skills on top of what you have now is a good one. Believe me, competition between J2EE and .NET is going to be fierce and I really feel that we are going to have a number of years where these technologies are fighting for market share. I am overtly anti M$ but I perfectly happy to not only work with their technologies but to actually recommend them when they are perfectly suited for the job in hand.
As I said, look at this as an opportunity to add to your skills. Embrace it.
John Wetherbie

Joined: Apr 05, 2000
Posts: 1449
My company has just started a Microsoft/.NET group. I am not a part of it but I think it is a good move for the company. Prior to this my company was a pure J2EE shop, so this will expand our opportunity to win work from companies that are Microsoft-centric. I think Amanda has the right take - look at this as an opportunity to learn. You will be more valuable if you can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of J2EE and .NET and have the experience to back it up.
You can always move on after you've learned enough to know you don't want to work with .NET!

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Vivek Viswanathan
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Joined: Mar 03, 2001
Posts: 350
I totaly agree that Architects have to work with all the tecnologies. But I dont want to toally get into the .NET development -- which is what I am supposed to do. Also I dont mind workign in .Net but what I actually wanted was some developement in J2EE ( to get that high) before I am sent out to explore the other teritory.
Anyways the things have chaged rit now, and I have beeen switched back to J2EE developement, it is great to be back. Since I am totally working in J2EE rit now I dont mind looking into .NET to see all the features avaliable. I have allready dowloaded the .NET beta 2 SDK to try out some stuff using C#.
This decision was made after we had a discussion yesterday, we just tried to comapre ASP and JSP and found out that some amazing features of JSP which were not present in ASP (probally ASP.NET has all thoses features). We had one guy from our company who has been working on ASP for a long time, he was there to help us out with the comparison. I too have worked on ASP for some time before I started with JSP, and this discussion really helped me brush up my knowledge in ASP.
Thanx for the advice, I totally agree with idea of trying out new technologies.
Vivek Viswanathan.
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