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I've just passed part 1. I spent 3 weeks studying for the part 1 exam, using the internet as the primary resource.
How long & effort do I need to put in for part II? Is 20 hours or so enough?
Thanks, Simon
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COngrats Simon on your sucsess, Please can you tell us what are the books which helped you in getting success in Part-1. Also it seems that the link which you provided, the sublinks against each topic do not have complete info. But anyway great work done and thanx once again. It would help me in my preparation too.
regards,
Vijay.
 
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Hi Vijay,
I bought:
a) Java 2: Network Security By: Marco Pistoia, et al
b) Designing Enterprise Applications with the Java 2 Platform:
Enterprise Edition By: Nicholas Kassem
c) Java 2 Enterprise Edition Specifications
By: Bill Shannon, et al
I used Pistoia as a reference maybe reading 20 pages. I read about 1/2 of Kassem. The last book I didn't read - It is too detailed.
My site is just the notes I made. The protocols page is a bit too detailed. I spent a lot of time learning patterns, learning UML is very important (class & interaction diagrams) & this is not mentioned in the Sun guide. My pages on Messaging, Internationisation and Security are a good for this exam.
My other stuff you should read and nod your head. If you dont know it - look it up on the internet. Remember this exam does not contain any code snippets or ask you to name method signatures (like the Programmers exam), so it's mostly about knowing the J2EE model and being able to apply it to problem scenarios. So a typical question will give details of a legacy system (including firewall features), details of the requirements and ask you if you about the bean types, messaging system, port numbers, applet security,etc etc..
I think Kassem is available to download from the Sun website (I think its called 'Blueprints') so really you don't need to buy any books at all :-)
The only additional hints I would give you are knowing what things like screen scrapers, MQSeries, VT100, ODBMS etc are. You dont need to know how they work - just what they are.
Wish you luck!

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Congrats Lee.
BTW I am preparing for part I and feeling difficult to learn design patterns. In the j2ee web site there are only few , but in others, there are plently.......I am getting confused what to learn , and what type of questions will come in design patterns.
waiting for reply,
Laxmi
 
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Ok, IMO you should know the following:
Be able to state the type (structural, creational, behavioral) of each of the 23 GoF patterns.
Know the advantages & disadvantages of using patterns.
Be able to state the pattern name given a description of the pattern.
State the description given the name.
you really need to know UML in general too, see my previous post.
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Originally posted by Simon Lee:
Ok, IMO you should know the following:
Be able to state the type (structural, creational, behavioral) of each of the 23 GoF patterns.
Know the advantages & disadvantages of using patterns.
Be able to state the pattern name given a description of the pattern.
State the description given the name.
you really need to know UML in general too, see my previous post.



From Marck Cade's Fast path document (only distributed at JavaOne2001)..
The following Design patterns ARE NOT COVERED BY THE EXAM :
structural pattern
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Bridge
flyweight
Behavioral patterns
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interpreter
memento
template method

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herve attia
 
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Originally posted by Simon Lee:
Ok, IMO you should know the following:
Be able to state the type (structural, creational, behavioral) of each of the 23 GoF patterns.
Know the advantages & disadvantages of using patterns.
Be able to state the pattern name given a description of the pattern.
State the description given the name.
you really need to know UML in general too, see my previous post.


 
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Thanks Lee. Really u helpled me in saving my time.
Laxmi
 
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Thanks, I appreciate your research into the exam.
 
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